what exactly can an afk pilot do, apart from make cowards stop playing of their own volition?

This thread is full of smartasses and generic dumb people. At least stop spamming that "AFK ppl can't do a thing if they are AFK". It should be pretty obvious what the term "AFK cloaker" means. If it's not, then you don't really know much about eve.

Well considering that the term "AFK cloaker" has AFK in it and AFK stands for "away from keyboard" could you explain how a person who isn't even at his or her computer can do anything to you?

Well considering that the term "AFK cloaker" has AFK in it and AFK stands for "away from keyboard" could you explain how a person who isn't even at his or her computer can do anything to you?

But you are really right

sit afk on an anomaly, cloaked, preventing it from despawning.

the AFK pilot does jack

sit afk on an anomaly, cloaked, preventing it from despawning.

GǪwhich still has nothing to do with AFK cloaking since the issue lies with the despawning mechanics of dungeons.

Hey guys, we get it. We understand that when you say "AFK Cloaker," you are not literally referring to someone whom is AFK. You are referring to the ability of someone to sit in local, AFK or otherwise, for prolonged periods of time while cloaked and then suddenly tackle you and bring in friends to kill you. What we keep saying to you is that there is a very simple way for you to avoid this: go to another system to do your PVE activities when you see a neutral or hostile alt in local.

while AFK.

=)

Tech 2 Scanning Probes, that at best will get you to 5000 m from the cloaked ship.

Or just get in a group and rat with your friends

in the best interest of my alliance im posting on an alt.

On my main i am in null sec and seen enemies to my alliance go in each of our systems with an alt and go cloaked for days and days on end. this disrupts our operations to ratting mining and other profitable isk ways. it started to tear down my alliance these people sitting cloaked off grid waiting to pick off the easy targets when we least expect it and hotdropping us time to time.. It brought my alliance mostly to a halt.

A debatable Solution:

Make it so to activate cloaking modules you must have a fuel to power it instead of using Capacitor power. Maybe a fuel like nitrogen isotopes that is consumed per hour using your cloaky module and is stored in your cargo bay or a cloaked fuels bay. So say covert ops cloak ships with the bonuses to use less fuel per hour would use less fuel per hour while being cloaked moving around while ships with prototype cloaks use more fuel per hour.

Just a thought

cloaking ships are invincible if not seen and menacing and fun to use to your liking. Its a pain in the ass when an alt is sitting in your system for days and days on end... a fuel to consume would eventually run out in were the fuel is held and uncloak the ship therefore easier to find and sotp

cloaking ships have no counter everything else has a counter lets make one for cloakies

well how well you can asset the danger you are in ? how much friends you gonna need ?

titan bridge 1k+ BS and support ? full cap fleet ? 3 drakes ?


per say / while afk he cant do anything

deception is in play here, you simply dont know. Only reasonable thing to do is just log off and check next day.. in case you cant ratt/mine in other system. In case you can you just move not an big deal.

And i also agree with having to make the cloaker "click" every hour or so. If you're going AFK and have no desire to hurt anybody like you stated, log off.

Tech 2 Scanning Probes, that at best will get you to 5000 m from the cloaked ship.

Not a bad idea. Maybe 5-10 KM So that you have to move about to find the AFK cloaker like in the days of WW2 submarine hunting. As long as it is POSSIBLE to find and kill the AFK cloaker I support the idea. We just have to be careful that it is slow enough to scan that it docent affect the ability of active players. Also I worry about the ability of such direct probes to reveal the purpose of the cloaker. Perhaps make it a random point in space to scan until you get to 100 percent then it shows the real location?

Edit: I see another issue that could be abused with this idea. Someone could show up in a drake and another launch a bomb at it to form a 15KM blast that would obviously cause damage to the cloaker. It could be considered right as some kind of depth charge but I worry about its affect against those actively cloaking. What if he is a slow warper? Perhaps warning that you have been located to be fair.

It amazes me some of the posts. AFK is not a threat etc.... Pfft...

Method: AFK cloak
Threat: Hotdrop
Reason: Area denial

It IS very effective at preventing alliance members from making any isk, period. It has nothing to with "botting". A hotdrop does NOT have to occur for it to be a threat. An occassional drop might show intent and highlight the risk making them more effective.

I've had many convos with neuts and they have stated categorically that area denial was the ONLY reason they were in system. In one instance we had 5 systems covered by AFK cloakies and they stayed for more than 6 days, 24 hours a day, often joking about what else they were doing (sleeping etc.) while their cloakies sat - doing nothing - and locked down the systems.

Going to "another system" (an oft used argument) IS an option yes, but the sanctum nerf made many areas useless. Most alliances do not allow blues from other alliances to share grounds.

It DOES put pressure on the average 0.0 player (who might rat, does a few roams and join CTA's) and is VERY effective when deployed over many days.

Removing local is NOT a aolution unless you accept that ignorance is bliss. If we had no intel at all we simply would not be there.

Yes, actively cloaking for gathering of intel and hotdropping are valid game mechanics and I have no problem with it. I have no problem with cloaking.

I have a problem with people that are as effective as a 50 man red fleet and they are in bed asleep while doing it.

We can argue black and blue over the points. I've tried to summarise and condense down to a single argument.