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Martineski
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Posted - 2009.03.26 01:13:00 -
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this sounds like a good idea as long as the ship remains unfittable like the regular freighter. 100km3 sounds like a reasonable, and keep the regular freighter skill bonuses. also to keep the difficulty of implementation low, have it require the same skills as a freighter, caldari industrial, V, spaceship command V, and advanced spaceship command I, this is to make sure that it is not abused as a mining hauler, but as a strict trade vessel.
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Adrian Idaho
Caldari
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.03 20:47:00 -
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The Orca is not the solution for the medium sized freighter problem, it is clearly a mining vessel and not intended for trading. Why should you train Mining Barge V and Mining Foreman V just for hauling? That doesn't make sense.
I definitely support the idea of a cargo ship with around 100k m¦ cargo and without the ability to pickup cans in space.
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Zaphroid Eulthran
Minmatar
Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2009.04.22 14:26:00 -
[633]
 Originally by: Gopher Boy
I think this idea has not been commented on by CCP since we now have the Orca which can be expanded to the capacity the OP wanted in the first place.
Please do not necro this thread any longer.
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Its not over, the orca is not a hauler, it is a mining command ship.
The requirements we wanted to see are simple, a straight cargobay of 120,000 m3 (the size required to haul one max capacity courior contract.
Fitting for modules I dont mind either way, hanger? would be useful but its not a nessecity.
Difficult to suicide gank, but as EvE shows us, nothing is impossible.
Definatly not T2, as for capital class, I like the idea of the 2 tier building process, but not the skill reqs associated with capitals applying to this ship.
As for the skill tree to fly it? well its not for miners so I dont want any barge related skills on it, its for Industrialists/Manufacturers, so Industry5, and Transport ships.
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Janas VonVarloria
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:17:00 -
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I guess I should pay more attention to the sticky forums more I just happened to run across this one and I just posted my own rant.... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1065365
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:32:00 -
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Orca is a mining command ship, yes.
Like a battleship is a ship to kill things, but you can also use a Battleship to mine, can get as much efficiency as the tier 3 barge 
Destroyers are rarely used to destroy, most are use for salvaging...
So yeah, the Orca is a mining command ship, but it doubles as a large scale hauler. thread solved, kthxbai.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:50:00 -
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They introduced mining barges even though they had battleships that could mine, why do you think they did it?
samething here.
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.05 13:03:00 -
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Im not gonna bother arguing over this...
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Fille Balle
TachyonTubbies
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.05.05 15:30:00 -
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Yes, we shall necro this thread some more!
/me puts on his best Farnsworth voice: "Good news everyone!" CCP has spoken: "Behold, you have asked, and you shall have!" (hm, probably in some sort of godlike voice, they are pretty megalomanic right?).
So, now we can leave it to rest. Maybe... meh! Keep it going! Let's keep whining, and then whine some more! Maybe it'll happen faster
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Portia Augustus
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Posted - 2009.05.11 04:12:00 -
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The game definitely needs a mid-range cargo ship of some kind... I've only been here two days and looking at the industrials and the freighters, and seeing how the ORCA is just so skill-oriented for mining, not hauling, just doesn't make it the "mid size" hauler some folks might like to say it is.
We need something along the 100,000 m3 range that is a cargo ship.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2009.05.11 04:20:00 -
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Orca is 100k+ m3, is a hauler. Can we let this die now? My corp uses freighters to move lots of minerals, requiring the 700k+ m3 cargohold. We also use Orcas to supports mining ops. And then we use Orcas as a mini-freighter, and it works PERFECTLY, and it can also move rigged ships.
Yes, its skills are mining related. But as someone above posted, a battleship's skills are combat related, but it has non-combat uses.
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Portia Augustus
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Posted - 2009.05.11 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Portia Augustus on 11/05/2009 11:18:59
I don't mine. If I wanted to, I'd probably skip BS skills, y'know?
And since I'm not going to be training BS skills either to make use of a BS's miniscule cargo space, I guess you're saying that makes training all those mining skills just to fly an ORCA the only reasonable alternative for non-miners?
Wow... why didn't I think of that.
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W3370Pi4
Caldari
Lords Of Kaos
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Posted - 2009.05.21 23:21:00 -
[642]
we need this
so many occasions where i needed such a ship
a small freighter is a must
and please don't mention the orca because it's clearly not a freighter
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Technomagez
Gallente
teeny tiny space pirates
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Posted - 2009.05.22 00:35:00 -
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I really like this idea and would love to see such a "Light Freighter" or "Heavy Transporter"
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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult
Orca is 100k+ m3, is a hauler. Can we let this die now? My corp uses freighters to move lots of minerals, requiring the 700k+ m3 cargohold. We also use Orcas to supports mining ops. And then we use Orcas as a mini-freighter, and it works PERFECTLY, and it can also move rigged ships.
Yes, its skills are mining related. But as someone above posted, a battleship's skills are combat related, but it has non-combat uses.
Sure, you CAN mine in a BS, and you can do it fairly well, if you train the BS skills AND some mining skills. But if I want to mine, I don't train BS skills. I train for mining barges to mine in.
Same concept. I CAN haul in an orca, if I train mining skills. But if I just want to trade and haul, I'll train trading and hauling skills, not MINING skills.
Need a "light freighter." Plain and simple. 100-200k m3. Requires hauling skills greater than a hauler, but lower than a freighter. Maybe indy V, race industrial ship IV, Light Freighter I. Slower & less agile than a hauler, faster and more agile than a freighter.
Would also like to see a "ship hauler" that has a small cargo bay and large ship hangar (3-6 mill m3) to move rigged ships, but I don't want to be greedy |
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CCP Firnor
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Posted - 2009.06.09 19:08:00 -
[645]
I will lock this one now so it can finally rest in peace. There is a more recent thread regarding "Mini Freighters" here, if you wish to discuss this topic further. |
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