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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2005.11.29 13:54:00 -
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BOING
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TotensBurntCorpse
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Posted - 2005.12.02 13:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Brogan Dagarkin
Agree that the current freighter should probably have been a Tier 3 freighter but what you are suggesting is probably closer to a tier 2 freighter. What about a freighter (as suggested in the initial post) with a 50-100 m3 range? Or even a 100-150 m3 range?
I think the jump between an Indy and a Freighter is just too great for those who have outgrown their Indy but cannot afford a freighter.
I would agree that CCP can easily put in tier 1 and tier 2 freighters making the current freighter tier 3. I can only assume the lack of response by any dev (ie no gold band on the thread indicating they have responded anywhere in here) means either...
- this is what carriers were meant to do (ie the current freighter is actually their Tier 1 freighter with carriers being tier 2 and motherships tier 3 and titans more of an advanced DN use)
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- its a "surprise" that will show up in RMR for christmas since all they need is models to impliment it
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- they have no intentions of making freighters anything other than very expensive toys for larger corporations
IMHO the jump from transport to freighter is way to large. Freighters ARE affordable if you get a few dedicated ppl together to own one. Bear in mind that a freighter used for trading requires a substantial bank roll to get going.
TotensBurntCorpse
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Taal Mk'tah
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Posted - 2005.12.04 10:54:00 -
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/bump
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Tadamitsu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: TotensBurntCorpse
- this is what carriers were meant to do (ie the current freighter is actually their Tier 1 freighter with carriers being tier 2 and motherships tier 3 and titans more of an advanced DN use)
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- its a "surprise" that will show up in RMR for christmas since all they need is models to impliment it
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- they have no intentions of making freighters anything other than very expensive toys for larger corporations
IMHO the jump from transport to freighter is way to large. Freighters ARE affordable if you get a few dedicated ppl together to own one. Bear in mind that a freighter used for trading requires a substantial bank roll to get going.
there is something like 39 new ships in RMR, Kali is also bringin out new ships, most of them are combat ships. The writeup in the dev blog about, carrier/mothership/titans tells me that they are not just big freighters, although they should carry a nice amount of cargo. This issue has not been delt with.
Talk is cheap, whisky costs money.
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Minxella
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:21:00 -
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Please Bump this Dead thread no more.
We don't need a small freighter simple as that, its easy enough to fly a freighter so just train for that. |
Brogan Dagarkin
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Posted - 2005.12.05 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Minxella
Please Bump this Dead thread no more.
We don't need a small freighter simple as that, its easy enough to fly a freighter so just train for that.
Sorry Minxella,
This isn't about ability as I agree it probably is quite easy to fly a freighter. However, what good is beaing able to fly a freighter when when you can't afford to purchase one (1 billion ISK). That means that only the mega rich or corps can afford to fly them while everyone else is stuck on indys.
I still think that there should be something between 23m3 (indy) and 750m3 (freighter). That gap just seems to wide. Something in the range of 50-150m3 would suit most traders as a stepping stone to obtaining a freighter.
Just my thoughts, comments anyone? |
TotensBurntCorpse
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Posted - 2005.12.06 05:06:00 -
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I can see the carriers being used as lower security freighters and will investigate that as soon as i can fly one. but they will cost even more than a billion, so the premise stands, why not have a lower capacity freighter that is more affordable.
TotensBurntCorpse
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Thunderbird Anthares
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Posted - 2005.12.06 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Thunderbird Anthares on 06/12/2005 23:23:24
/signed
my exact idea-
there is a wide gap between freighters and transport ships,so the mini-freighter,or i would name it cargo liner,could have armor a bit higher than deep space transports,speed around maybe 100 m/s,cargo around 75-100k m3,some minor fitting options,and "maybe" a +1 to warp core stability (warp strength? cant remember how its called),and i`d say acceptable medium is 200-300mil,race dependant of course,like everything else.Ability to pick up jetcans? I`d say yes,maybe yes with smaller cargo (about 50k m3),but i`ll leave this up to the devs.
---now the crazier idea---
Another option would be to make an armored liner out of it,giving it 8 hi-slots for small,and i repeat,small turrets,or maybe 3 hi-slots for med ones instead.
Maybe im deviated,addicted to unrealistic sci-fi movies,or something,but the idea of an armored transport running from swarms of rogue frigates while trying to defend itself by its point-defense weaponry sounds fun to me 
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Taal Mk'tah
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Minxella
Please Bump this Dead thread no more.
We don't need a small freighter simple as that, its easy enough to fly a freighter so just train for that.
Yeah?... You are quite right, it is easy to fly one.... if you have about 1.2 - 1.35 Billion ISK to buy skills and the ship itself... and dont tell me: "There are BYOM offers..." Try to tell a 10 man corp to mine the minerals for a freighter... they will tell you to "Foxtrott Uniform Charly Kilo" off ... :)
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:00:00 -
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More bumpage
Shameless but needed...
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TotensBurntCorpse
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Minxella
Please Bump this Dead thread no more.
We don't need a small freighter simple as that, its easy enough to fly a freighter so just train for that.
Would this be the same comment if only HACs existed and no Assault Frigates?
I dont think so !
To train to fly a freighter is not the main issue, BUYING one is.
TotensBurntCorpse
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Thunderbird Anthares
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Posted - 2005.12.07 21:13:00 -
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i dont see whats your problem
just compare cargo space of those things and funds needed to get it,and by that i mean skill price and price of the bare ship
the gap is HUMONGOUS
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Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2005.12.08 09:30:00 -
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IMO anything bigger than the current crop of 'industrials' (3k to 20k) should be unable to pick up cans 'in space' - this strictly to limit the abuse from mega- & macro miners.
Put in a mid tier Cargo Tug up in the range of 100k/m3 that can be loaded from POS, motherships, outposts, and of course stations. They can, however, jettison their cargo wherever needed.
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Thunderbird Anthares
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Posted - 2005.12.08 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Spy4Hire
IMO anything bigger than the current crop of 'industrials' (3k to 20k) should be unable to pick up cans 'in space' - this strictly to limit the abuse from mega- & macro miners.
Put in a mid tier Cargo Tug up in the range of 100k/m3 that can be loaded from POS, motherships, outposts, and of course stations. They can, however, jettison their cargo wherever needed.
ok,thats a point there
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2005.12.08 16:09:00 -
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Not that i have read all this, but i would be nice to have something which could pick up the roar ore in 0.0 and bring it back to a refining station.
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SentryRaven
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Posted - 2005.12.08 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Spy4Hire
IMO anything bigger than the current crop of 'industrials' (3k to 20k) should be unable to pick up cans 'in space' - this strictly to limit the abuse from mega- & macro miners.
Put in a mid tier Cargo Tug up in the range of 100k/m3 that can be loaded from POS, motherships, outposts, and of course stations. They can, however, jettison their cargo wherever needed.
This is what we want.....
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Not that i have read all this, but i would be nice to have something which could pick up the roar ore in 0.0 and bring it back to a refining station.
This not!
Include Small Freighters into EVE |
S Rutgenius
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Posted - 2005.12.08 18:42:00 -
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signed, sometimes you need to move a lot. freighters are too big, expensive and slow while industrials are too small. something like the battlecruiser, between cruiser and BS
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Arleonenis
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Posted - 2005.12.08 19:12:00 -
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i agree some small freighter with like 100k-200k m3 cargo and cost around 150-250m of isk would be great. Just station->station->POS
So it wouldnt be used in mining ops just in fueling of pos or some trading/medium hauling operations.
It skill requirements should remain same as freighter but it could have twice better agility and speed and built in +2 warp core stabilizer to be more usefull in 0.0 pos fueling operations, oh and new ship model
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Thunderbird Anthares
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Posted - 2005.12.10 13:27:00 -
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BUMP
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Solacia
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Posted - 2005.12.10 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Arleonenis
i agree some small freighter with like 100k-200k m3 cargo and cost around 150-250m of isk would be great. Just station->station->POS
So it wouldnt be used in mining ops just in fueling of pos or some trading/medium hauling operations.
It skill requirements should remain same as freighter but it could have twice better agility and speed and built in +2 warp core stabilizer to be more usefull in 0.0 pos fueling operations, oh and new ship model
And hence make regular freighters completely redundant
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SentryRaven
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Posted - 2005.12.10 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Solacia
Originally by: Arleonenis
i agree some small freighter with like 100k-200k m3 cargo and cost around 150-250m of isk would be great. Just station->station->POS
So it wouldnt be used in mining ops just in fueling of pos or some trading/medium hauling operations.
[...]to be more usefull in 0.0 pos fueling operations, oh and new ship model[...]
And hence make regular freighters completely redundant
Not completely... Our corp recently moved from Lonetrek to Derelik. Moving an entire corp took us 12 x 45 jumps in an Iteron Mark V... You can imagine how ****ed I was.... and a freigther was too expensive and no-one had the skills...
And fueling wouldnt replace the freigther... cause they cannot open POS structure hangars anyway...
Include Small Freighters into EVE |
Taal Mk'tah
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Posted - 2005.12.13 16:51:00 -
[142]
/bump
/signed
/msg DEV "Read this"
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2005.12.13 17:30:00 -
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think this is my 3rd post in this thread allready, cmon devs, give us an answer!
WE WANT A MINI FREIGHTER!!! 
5 pages and almost no negative posts, that should show the devs were serious and it's something that would increase our gaming fun?
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2005.12.15 10:37:00 -
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BUMP!!!!!
*Dhejay Centrix chants "mini freighter, mini-freighter, mini-freighter..." etc...
You get the idea...
Come on devs let's have some thoughts on this...
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ecam's Hunter
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Posted - 2005.12.15 11:40:00 -
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Good idea
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Taal Mk'tah
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Posted - 2005.12.16 22:24:00 -
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/bump
/call Devs
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Theodore Gross
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Posted - 2005.12.19 07:41:00 -
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totaly agree with the idea
should be atleast 100.000m3 cargo bay
and atleast have better speed and agility
compared to regular freighter,
.. and shouldnt cost more than 200 mil 
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2005.12.19 10:48:00 -
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Mini Freighter.
Not fussed any more, As long as it STILL has 0/0/0 slots 1/2 the cargo capacity and 1/2 HP's and 1/2 the cost I'd be fine with it.
400 mill isk Would be about right seeing as Freighters are now anywhere from 700 mill to 1.5 bill. |
Thecle Vifargent
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Posted - 2005.12.19 17:28:00 -
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I put nearly the same thought before seeing this post :
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=265036
a 200-300 k m3 cargo with the same limitation than freighter but able to enter a pos would be very handfull in my mind...
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Arrae
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:31:00 -
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Why have no devs commented yet? This is a great idea, and deserves a look. If they arent going to consider it, they could at least say so.
Regardless of the details, there is a huge gap between industrials and freighters.
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