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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.01.09 08:17:00 -
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Small freighters mean that the reason for big freighters to exist goes away.
Suck it up and go grind some isk. They arent that expensive.
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SentryRaven
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Posted - 2006.01.09 10:02:00 -
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The normal freighters have been created to move complete corporation from region to region and not help the middle-man to do his trade runs...
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Serendipity007
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Posted - 2006.01.09 18:37:00 -
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/sign
Great Idea! It should have a cargobay of 50,000 m3 - 250,000 m3 and cost ALOT less than a freighter. Perhaps an additional transport ship class, designed for heavy hauling but without as much defenses. Decent speed, no jump drive needed. Fittings should be similar to a T1 Hauler.
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Wendal Weyland
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Wendal Weyland on 09/01/2006 20:52:22
Edited by: Wendal Weyland on 09/01/2006 20:51:31
My corp is small, but moves a fair bit of minerals about. A small Freighter would be ideal to replace Itty 5s and Mammoths.
Even if they arent small Freighters, then hows about bigger Indies, even an Ore designed cargo ship, like the barges.
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imblocked
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Posted - 2006.01.10 08:22:00 -
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Since we still not have our freighter cans and no devs gave any feedback to the small freighter idea... i'm not sure we'll see this one day...
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paulcdb
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Posted - 2006.01.10 12:00:00 -
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/signed
I have no use for a Freighter but would love a smaller version of around 100,000m3 - c'mon devs, you know you wanna give us a new toy to play with, look at all the toys PvP'ers have 
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:37:00 -
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B
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Poing!!!
Where is the response to this post? At least let us know if we're wasting our time cos it sure looks like it atm.
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Maabuss
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Posted - 2006.01.10 17:40:00 -
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/Signed :) I too have trouble hauling things, and this ship would be very useful :-P
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Vicious Malicious
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:51:00 -
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Sounds like a good idea. Can't believe they haven't made a ship like that. Since you don't fly around in low sec/no sec with a freighter, it would be ideal for people based in 0.0
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Phoenixhawk
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:35:00 -
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/signed for all the good it does :)
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Dr Rane
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Rane on 10/01/2006 21:43:37
good idea that ccp should listen to.
CCP why do you have this "idea"thread in the forum if you never read it?
You have been known as a good Dev gang that actually listens to your costumers, now prove that you do. reply here, say anything about the idea.
..not likly they will thou..
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.01.10 23:05:00 -
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They wont reply because its a bad idea.
You have freighters. They arent that expensive. If you cant afford them, try an I5.
If you make small, cheap freighters, the reason for the big freighters to exist is gone. This is, of course, ignoring the fact that an occator or an impel is basically a small freighter anyway.
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SentryRaven
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Posted - 2006.01.10 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Fear
They wont reply because its a bad idea.
You have freighters. They arent that expensive. If you cant afford them, try an I5.
If you make small, cheap freighters, the reason for the big freighters to exist is gone. This is, of course, ignoring the fact that an occator or an impel is basically a small freighter anyway.
Wonder why there are so many for the idea rather than against.... Apparently we are showing the communities wish here, aren't we mates!?!?
SR
/bump¦ + signed¦
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Tregaa Viskne
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Posted - 2006.01.11 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tregaa Viskne on 11/01/2006 01:38:37
Originally by: Blind Fear
You have freighters. They arent that expensive. If you cant afford them, try an I5.
If you make small, cheap freighters, the reason for the big freighters to exist is gone. This is, of course, ignoring the fact that an occator or an impel is basically a small freighter anyway.
Do you think it's logical that you jump from a 30k cargo capacity (attainable only with named expanders fitted) to a 785k cargo capacity then? Or from a 1mill price tag to a going on 1 bill price tag?
There will still be reasons for full on freighters to exist, as they will still make sense for the large corp/alliances who are able to afford them. Apart from anything else, you need one to deploy an outpost.
If you still don't think it's makes sense try this on for size - imagine a combat pilot being told in noob corp chat :
Originally by: Some experienced player
Yep first step's a frigate - skip the destroyer and save up for the cruiser. After you get your cruiser then get a tech 2 cruiser, and after that the next step up is to start saving for your dreadnought
Sound quite so logical now? This is the situation haulers have at the moment. You're argument is so nonsensical, it could be taking as flamebaiting in fact...
I'm not a trader, but I'm starting out in building and would *love* to have a way of moving anything bigger than guns or ammo in sensible quantities - I fully support the idea of a mini-freighter. It can have all the same restrictions, it can even need the same skills, as long as the cost for the ship itself isn't so prohibitive.
Originally by: CCP Hammer
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.01.11 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: SentryRaven
Wonder why there are so many for the idea rather than against.... Apparently we are showing the communities wish here, aren't we mates!?!?
SR
/bump¦ + signed¦
Because everyone wants something that helps them no matter how silly or unnecessary it is.
I want -10 warp scramblers for my claw. I bet I could get a whole thread full of people for it. Doesnt make it a good idea.
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Dunpeal
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Posted - 2006.01.11 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dunpeal on 11/01/2006 05:08:25
Edited by: Dunpeal on 11/01/2006 05:06:59
This idea is good, and it should be used, it's a part of eve development to put smaller steps into all professions, fighters just get a lot more loving, blind, mate... you're missing all the points in the thread and making a fool of yourself, but that's just what i think
not flaming you mate, just trying to make you see the absurd of your statements
Bow down, and i'll make your death even more painfull! At least die with some dignity
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SentryRaven
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Posted - 2006.01.11 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Fear
I'll take 100 occators at 1m isk please. Let me know where the escrow is. Also, a freighter is not prohibitively expensive. Go grind some isk. Hell, you can sell most faction battleships for more then a freighter costs, go ***** up 600k LP, shouldnt take that long.
WTF is that about occators? They are low sec haulers and can't hold as much as the Mark V as far as I know....
And I am going to rename the thread I guess... to delete everything between destroyers and the titan..... :P
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2006.01.11 14:08:00 -
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Naff idea, I'm afraid.
Frieghters, whilst not technically capital ships, are supposed to be corp ventures.
They weren't intended for some n00bcorp alt/solo artist to be able to corner a regions' trade runs.
'Specially after they tried so hard to nerf that sort of thing with the trade skills.
I'm still ****ed that they backed off banning them from jumpgates...
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Taal Mk'tah
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Posted - 2006.01.12 01:13:00 -
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/bump
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2006.01.12 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zzazzt
Naff idea, I'm afraid.
Frieghters, whilst not technically capital ships, are supposed to be corp ventures.
They weren't intended for some n00bcorp alt/solo artist to be able to corner a regions' trade runs...
This doesn't change the fact that people HAVE bought them solo and use freighters to corner the market on trade runs. So far it's about 7 pages of "for" to 2 posters against. Aside from anything else... forget trading for a sec, I want a ship that can move more than 2.5-3mil trit in one go. Even a fully loaded it5 can't do that. And btw an occator is rubbish if you fill the slots with cargo expanders, yes it holds lots of stuff but it is slower than a freighter and aligns to warp about as fast as a catatonic bovine.
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.01.12 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dhejay Centrix
Originally by: Zzazzt
Naff idea, I'm afraid.
Frieghters, whilst not technically capital ships, are supposed to be corp ventures.
They weren't intended for some n00bcorp alt/solo artist to be able to corner a regions' trade runs...
This doesn't change the fact that people HAVE bought them solo and use freighters to corner the market on trade runs. So far it's about 7 pages of "for" to 2 posters against. Aside from anything else... forget trading for a sec, I want a ship that can move more than 2.5-3mil trit in one go. Even a fully loaded it5 can't do that. And btw an occator is rubbish if you fill the slots with cargo expanders, yes it holds lots of stuff but it is slower than a freighter and aligns to warp about as fast as a catatonic bovine.
You want this for mins?
Get some decent production skills and do mineral compression.
Problem solved.
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Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2006.01.13 13:49:00 -
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lol.... decent production skills
If I had higher prod skills on my carebear alt then his char sheet would explode.
Blind Fear If you don't have anything constructive to add please don't add at all.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:18:00 -
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The best ideas often do not get dev responses.
That doesn't mean they arent read or used. Quite contrary, one sometimes seen part of them return in later devblogs.
That however doesn't mean I would considr this a good idea by definition tho. I'm in two minds about this. It would make some things that definately do not need it alot easier, but would make some thngs that do need it easier too.
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TotensBurntCorpse
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Posted - 2006.01.14 00:01:00 -
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no dev comment yet ?
TotensBurntCorpse
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.01.14 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dhejay Centrix
lol.... decent production skills
If I had higher prod skills on my carebear alt then his char sheet would explode.
Blind Fear If you don't have anything constructive to add please don't add at all.
Its not constructive to tell you to do mineral compression? Hell, you can move more trit compressed in an i5 then you can uncompressed in a charon.
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PirateLeader
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Posted - 2006.01.14 11:04:00 -
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yes i fully agree that we need a ship in between Itty 5, or occator and freighter, i myself some times need to transport some staff couple of jumps and with it takes me aroun d 5 trips or about 5 jumps, thats quiet a lot. so i would welcome a middle sized transport ship weould be nice with 250k cargospace for aout 200k isk
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Marcus Right
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Posted - 2006.01.14 13:51:00 -
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We go from a ship with a Max Capacity of around 23,000 (Mammoth with Fittings) to a ship with 720,000... That is a huge gap. Granted, Freighters were a cool idea. They made it so people living out in 0.0 space can get things for prices near the same as in empire.
However, Something in the 100,000m3 range would be nice. Maybe be 1/7th a freighter in every way. 1/7th the armor, 1/7th the hauling capacity, 1/7th the shields, and 1/7th the cost.
As it is right now there are the mega Alliances and then there is everyone else. While the game should be balanced in such a way that those who have been playing longer get the advantage. Newer players should have at least a chance to compete.
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2006.01.14 14:10:00 -
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I'd rather see larger cargo expanders, *****ble only to tech 2 Industrials.
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SentryRaven
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Posted - 2006.01.15 10:53:00 -
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/bump
Wonder why even the topic does not lure some dev inside...
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DeckardIRL
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Posted - 2006.01.15 11:35:00 -
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We have a Gallente Freighter in our Corp and we are only a small corp. We have 3 POS in one system in 0.2 space. We would not risk the freighter in low sec space. Thus refuelling the 3 POS can be a nightmare using iterons. You just cant carry enough to do it in one run as well as collect from the silos and reactors. Something around 125,000m3 or more at a reasonable price... and that would be less than the price of a battleship... It is only sensible.... we are here to play the game and enjoy it as much as possible, not spend hours hauling, with all the new ship types in RMR is it amazing that a decent hauler wasn't added... must be too boring for the devs to be bothered to do.....
Deckard
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