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Severa Crest Nomina Sacra Sapientia Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:46:00 - [991] Edited by: Severa Crest on 11/10/2006 11:45:55 Originally by: Fenderson i was just thinking about this and getting upset so i thought i'd whine a little Lets look at vagabond vs deimos. Sure its not a fair comparison, the vaga is way overpowered. But the ships are designed to fill pretty much the same role in theory, so in some ways it is valid. Comparing possible fittings with 1 RCU II: Vagabond: 5 x 220mm ac med nos LARGE extender LARGE shield booster MWD II Scram nanos/gyros/WCS in whatever combination desired Deimos: 5 x ions med nos mwd,scram, web or cap charger MED rep 3x harders 1 mag stab So to recap, using 1 RCU II and the same high slot configuration, on the vaga you can fit a large rep and extender, whereas the deimos can only fit a med rep and some hardeners, making the survivability of the vaga waaaaay longer. Plate? forget about it. And thats not even factoring in speed/manueverability in any way. grrrrrr.... WTF is a vaga gonna do with a large shield boost?
Miklas Laces A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:40:00 - [992] Edited by: Miklas Laces on 11/10/2006 14:40:38 omg it's happening Quote: # Powergrid of Sacrilege, Deimos and Muninn increased to 1100MW, 950MW and 1100MW respectively # CPU of Sacrilege and Deimos increased to 350tf for both ships Linkage
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:42:00 - [993] Originally by: Miklas Laces Edited by: Miklas Laces on 11/10/2006 14:40:38 omg it's happening Quote: # Powergrid of Sacrilege, Deimos and Muninn increased to 1100MW, 950MW and 1100MW respectively # CPU of Sacrilege and Deimos increased to 350tf for both ships Linkage If tux doesn't implement this at downtime tomorrow I'm going to cry Yes, I'm an impatient bastard Cheers tux Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Jorund Bork Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:46:00 - [994] \o/ yay for the changes (but it will still move like a pregnant cow..... Tux, PLEASE look at the agility/speed issue while you are on the case. Think about the ships role..)
Miklas Laces A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:51:00 - [995] Originally by: GO MaZ If tux doesn't implement this at downtime tomorrow I'm going to cry Kali 1
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:59:00 - [996] Originally by: Miklas Laces Originally by: GO MaZ If tux doesn't implement this at downtime tomorrow I'm going to cry Kali 1 Proceeding to cry Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:05:00 - [997] will 950MW fix our problem? ... and when is kali 1 gonna be released?
bldyannoyed Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:13:00 - [998] Its an extra 90 grid before skils, so cal it an extra 110 with eng 5. Thats most of a MAR2 or medium NOS, so if u cant do something with that there is something wrong with you. It's still gonna handle like a slug tho.
Shirazz	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:19:00 - [999] dont gal have enough good ships....? Your other HAC is leet, why do they both have to be?
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:25:00 - [1000] Originally by: Shirazz dont gal have enough good ships....? Your other HAC is leet, why do they both have to be? cuz the deimos sux more then the sac

Fenderson Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:04:00 - [1001] Originally by: Severa Crest WTF is a vaga gonna do with a large shield boost? Lots of vaga pilots fit them, especially faction ones. You cap out faster but tank better while you can run it. The point is you have the spare fittings on a vaga to do it. And the extender is more of the major issue anyway... real men structure tank
Dragy	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:27:00 - [1002] Tux, taking into consideration fact that you're replying more often then normally, i'd like you to write anything here, in the deimos thread. This is really important for us.

Tuxford	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:28:00 - [1003] anything _______________

Dragy	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:33:00 - [1004] Originally by: Tuxford anything hehe to be exact : Are you fixing deimos ? if yes, what is going to be boosted ?

Tuxford	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:34:00 - [1005] Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Tuxford anything hehe to be exact : Are you fixing deimos ? if yes, what is going to be boosted ? grid and cpu _______________

GenYslacker	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:40:00 - [1006] Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Tuxford anything hehe to be exact : Are you fixing deimos ? if yes, what is going to be boosted ? grid and cpu Horrah for tux!
Dragy	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:41:00 - [1007] thanks
Dragy	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:44:00 - [1008] and just 1 last thing, don't you think that mass/agility/speed should also change ?
Dragy	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:20:00 - [1009] silence ... as i thought ...
Kel Dario Amarr Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:38:00 - [1010] Don't worry - It probably get on his next to do list sometime the end of next year ^^

Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:49:00 - [1011] Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Tuxford anything hehe to be exact : Are you fixing deimos ? if yes, what is going to be boosted ? grid and cpu The ship deserves to be as fast as a thorax at least dont you think?
Fenderson Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:36:00 - [1012] Originally by: Kunming Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Tuxford anything hehe to be exact : Are you fixing deimos ? if yes, what is going to be boosted ? grid and cpu The ship deserves to be as fast as a thorax at least dont you think? agreed but ill take what i can get HOORAY for more grid/cpu! real men structure tank
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.15 16:54:00 - [1013] Originally by: Kunming Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Tuxford anything hehe to be exact : Are you fixing deimos ? if yes, what is going to be boosted ? grid and cpu The ship deserves to be as fast as a thorax at least dont you think? Seriously. Or at least entertain us and explain why not. ___________ Auction: Corpum Gear
Dash Ripcock Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:10:00 - [1014] Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Tuxford anything hehe to be exact : Are you fixing deimos ? if yes, what is going to be boosted ? grid and cpu Hurrah! We're getting there! Now all we need is the same base speed of the Thorax
Xpar	Posted - 2006.10.22 22:36:00 - [1015] To keep in line with the Tuxford's philosophy of the new Tier 3 Gallente BS, Hyperion, that is to lower the mass of blasterboats, I kind of feel Deimos should get a mass reduction as well.
Jazz Bo Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.22 22:51:00 - [1016] Originally by: Fenderson i was just thinking about this and getting upset so i thought i'd whine a little Lets look at vagabond vs deimos. Sure its not a fair comparison, the vaga is way overpowered. But the ships are designed to fill pretty much the same role in theory, so in some ways it is valid. Comparing possible fittings with 1 RCU II: Vagabond: 5 x 220mm ac med nos LARGE extender LARGE shield booster MWD II Scram nanos/gyros/WCS in whatever combination desired Deimos: 5 x ions med nos mwd,scram, web or cap charger MED rep 3x harders 1 mag stab So to recap, using 1 RCU II and the same high slot configuration, on the vaga you can fit a large rep and extender, whereas the deimos can only fit a med rep and some hardeners, making the survivability of the vaga waaaaay longer. Plate? forget about it. And thats not even factoring in speed/manueverability in any way. grrrrrr.... What's even funnier, if you drop the Nos (useless unless you go for a 15km+ faction one really) and go for dual-Large Extender set-up (7k shields!), you don't need any fitting mods on a Vagabond. Seriously, fitting a Vaga is so easy compared to the Deimos (or the Ishtar) I feel like crying. Well, not really since I can fly both but you get the point. So thanks for the extra grid Tux. Now it just needs some more speed and agility! Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
Space Samuri	Posted - 2006.10.23 02:08:00 - [1017] Originally by: Xpar To keep in line with the Tuxford's philosophy of the new Tier 3 Gallente BS, Hyperion, that is to lower the mass of blasterboats, I kind of feel Deimos should get a mass reduction as well. FFS you got your little grid upgrade, now something else? It will never end..
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.23 02:23:00 - [1018] Originally by: Space Samuri Originally by: Xpar To keep in line with the Tuxford's philosophy of the new Tier 3 Gallente BS, Hyperion, that is to lower the mass of blasterboats, I kind of feel Deimos should get a mass reduction as well. FFS you got your little grid upgrade, now something else? It will never end.. The proposed plate boost makes the deimos just as useless as it is now
Breed Love Minmatar Stormriders	Posted - 2006.10.23 02:38:00 - [1019] Originally by: Space Samuri Originally by: Xpar To keep in line with the Tuxford's philosophy of the new Tier 3 Gallente BS, Hyperion, that is to lower the mass of blasterboats, I kind of feel Deimos should get a mass reduction as well. FFS you got your little grid upgrade, now something else? It will never end.. Actually a speed/agility boost was one of the first requested changes. Its not just the grid thats the problem. ------ Originally by: Gazon In any case, the whole affair had one lasting effect: Awarding Stormriders the label of ridiculous drug addicts with a tendency towards utterly foolish actions.
Sadist Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.23 05:41:00 - [1020] Reduce mass by 1,000,000kg, increase base speed to 190 m/s. That's all the boost this baby needs tbh. òòòòòòòòòòòò VIP member of the [23] Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.



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