Nerfing drone DPS in any way will make Stratios useless for lowsec DED`s.

The frigate will be a great PvP ship (if it gets another high slot) 20% to drone HP, take means 5 drones going at another frigate, that frigate will have one hell of a time killing the drones before they get him, and add the 2 lasers and I think the SOE friagte will be a mean ship. Remember these are to explore and while doing so to be able to defend themsselfs. we all will find ways of turning them into full pvp ships but, that isn't what their role is suppose to be.

SOE frigate just needs either one med or one low removed and another high slots added.

SOE cruiser just needs 2 or 3 gun slots with 100% to laser damage and all slots high, med and low same amount.

SOE battleship need one haha

And soon to come Cald/Min Thukker faction ships! (I'm a dreamer haha)

Naw! make the probe launcher an integral part of ship...automatic Sisters Expanded launcher that draws directly from cargo or probe ammo bay.

Same for covert cloak make it integral with special Sisters specs.

Just use attached pseudo modules to provide the buttons.

Insures ship gets used as intended by the SOE and makes fitting simpler and CLEAN. Its the sort of design restrictions a religious order would make.

While I'm concerned about it being overpowered in PvP, this is absolutely true, unfortunately. You need fairly high DPS to be able to break overseer tanks.

I think the best solution is a 6/3/6 slot layout, that lets you fit a prop mod and relic/data analyzer for exploration mode, allows 4 guns + cloak and probe launcher, and balances heavy drone DPS in PvP by not allowing a dual-web fit, and therefore reducing the applied DPS of heavy drones.

You don't actually need that much dps to break an overseer's tank. Only about 400 of their weakest resist to kill most of them. And this ship doesn't have the tank to be able to do any of the harder (8/10 +) DED sites.

You can reduce the drone dps of this ship without stopping its ability to finish DED sites because it can't tank the DED sites where the drone dps actually matters.

You don't actually need that much dps to break an overseer's tank. Only about 400 of their weakest resist to kill most of them. And this ship doesn't have the tank to be able to do any of the harder (8/10 +) DED sites.

You can reduce the drone dps of this ship without stopping its ability to finish DED sites because it can't tank the DED sites where the drone dps actually matters.

If you reduce drone dps not a single person will use it for lowsec deds, everyone will just continue using Ishtar. If dps needs to be reduced for whatever reason, then it should be done in some other way, removing or reducing turrets hardpoints comes to mind.

Reducing turret hardpoints wouldn't do anything but shift the design focus of the ship away from the intended "Lasers and Drones". Beyond the fact that 4 unbonused turrets do pathetic dps, they would also make it that much harder to be cap stable and I wouldn't be surprised if many fits just forgo turrets.

4 DDAs push the ships DPS up to 772 with Ogre IIs and 731 with Garde IIs

845 and 800.

4DDA = 845 & 800
3DDA = 793 & 751
2DDA = 701 & 663
1DDA = 584 & 554

All of these before guns.

Nerfing drone DPS in any way will make Stratios useless for lowsec DED`s.

Reducing turret hardpoints wouldn't do anything but shift the design focus of the ship away from the intended "Lasers and Drones". Beyond the fact that 4 unbonused turrets do pathetic dps, they would also make it that much harder to be cap stable and I wouldn't be surprised if many fits just forgo turrets.

When 95% of this ships dps is tied up in drones you can't really reduce the turret hardpoints and say to yourself "Yeah, we made a significant impact on its damage."

And I really wouldn't say that nerfing the drone dps would make people not want to use it over the ishtar. The Stratios easier to get into, it has a scanning bonus, it has a hacking bonus, and it doesn't have to rely on a MWD + Improved cloak trip to safely get past gatecamps, and to top it off more agile and can bail out in under 5 seconds if someone appears on grid. The 20% resists across the board also give it better tanking options against non-guristas/serpentis that the Ishtar just doesn't have.

845 and 800.

4DDA = 845 & 800
3DDA = 793 & 751
2DDA = 701 & 663
1DDA = 584 & 554

All of these before guns.

And this is why you shouldn't try to math immediately after waking up from a nap.

But my point stands, guns are not needed.

Ok, then lets sum up Stratios abilities in case if drone dps is nerfed.
Inferior to cov ops in scanning and hacking/analyzing
Inferior to Ishtar in running lowsec deds
Inferior to Proteus in ganking people running signatures/anoms
Superior to everything in looking sexy

Or one could do the same while taking into account its T1 status, even if it is faction.

QFT as thread is so full of stupid I want to punch a cow.

This is a PIRATE ship. Not just a faction ship. Pirate ships are supposed to be far more superior than T1 ships, much better than navy faction ships, and better than T2 ships.

Better than T2 true, but not everything at the same time and about par with navy at the single focused navy aspect whichever it may be.
The thing that betrays the SoE Cruiser is the slot layout, it simply has way too many ways to about its business so either it is focused somewhat or something else has to give .. closest comparative hull is the Cynabal but with its damage being gun focused even that powerful ship has only some of the versatility afforded by a 5/5/5 drone platform.

How's this for better stats?

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Astero

Role Bonus: 100% reduction in CPU requiement for cloaks
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus)
Role Bonus: +10(+5) Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Frigate Bonus:
4% bonus to Armor Resists
OR
+5m^3 drone bay per level

Gallente Frigate Bonus:
20% bonus to drone hitpoints
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and optimal range

Slot layout: 3H(+1), 4M, 3L(-1); 2 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 32 PWG, 170 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 480(-80) / 660(+60) / 620(+20)
Capacitor (amount) : 430
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 312 / 2.87 / 975000 / 3.88s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 37km / 620 / 6
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 35
Cargo Capacity: 210

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Stratios

Role Bonus: 50% reduction in Energy Turret capacitor need
Role Bonus: 37.5% bonus to Energy Turret tracking and optimal range
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength
Role Bonus: +5 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
4% bonus to Armor Resists

Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 3 turrets (-1) , 0 launchers
Fittings: 920 PWG, 400 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1450(-500) / 2400 / 2450
Capacitor (amount) : 1700
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 182 / .47 / 9350000 / 6.09s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 275 / 7
Sensor strength: 20
Signature radius: 150
Cargo Capacity: 550

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What these changes accomplish:

ASTERO:
The Astero is made a better frigate overall - with the loss of a lowslot, there is now potential for better drone application and better damage. It should be great for doing the lowest level complexes and blitzing L1s and L2 in hostile space - maybe even better performance in wormhole space! Since there's no gun bonus and not too much tank, it won't be overpowered when it comes to PvP. The +5 virus strength will be a welcome bonus to those of us who do sites in nullsec (this can be changed back if it overshadows other ships too much). The loss of shield HP makes it so this can not be turned into an OP PvP brawler because of 4 mid slots.

STRATIOS:
The loss of a turret slot on the Stratios minimizes the potential for the neutron fits that some people think are OP (despite them being complete glass cannons)- yet damage application will be better for PvE'ers, making this ship more capable in PvE and less capable in PvP. The loss of shield HP prevents the efficiency of pure shield gank fits.