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Byzan Zwyth
Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.01.14 02:12:00 -
[751]
well, to the dark side. I never wanted to sit in this ship as everyone uses it but for good reason, ability to pick damage type and tank well not worrying about tracking are the boons of this ship.
Training Caldari BS 2 now, Apart from this skill and sorry missile skills I have everything else. Good shield tanking skills, missile skills wont take too long to train. Cruse skill to 4 and missile support skills to 3-4 and I'll be set.
once I can sit in the ship I will have this kit ready to fit
6x arby cruise, 2x 720mm II (have to fit something)
1x Caldari Navy XL booster 1x best Named Amp 3x Active hardeners depending on mission 1x cap recharger II
2x BCS II 3x PDU II
3x CCC rigs
bay full of hammerhead I (too easy to lose T2 drones)
Since the CN booster boosts faster and uses cap faster I may remove the amp for another cap recharger II depending on how testing goes. I'll also have to test PDU vs CFC for the lows CN XL looks cap hungry. May need some switching on/off. ---------------------- Rank: Tech 1 and a 1/2 cannon fodder
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oplus
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Posted - 2008.01.16 11:43:00 -
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I've only recently started doing level 4's. As long as you can manage aggro there pretty easy. Just wanted some advice on my setup. Not sure if its very good or not all high slots are going to t2 and dropping heavy's for cruise when missile skills improve.
high 4 Arba Cruise t1 2 heavy launchers t1(for those pesky cruisers and below) 2 heavy nos t1
med
xl sb t2 shield amp t2 4 hardners t2(rat specific)
low
2 BCU t2 2 PDU t2 1 CPU t2
rigs
3 CCC
Gallente t2 medium drones
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Saarjuk Khan
Caldari Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.01.17 12:15:00 -
[753]
6 x Arbalest Cruise Launcher 1 x Tractor 1 x Salvager ------------------------------------ 1 XL-Shieldbooster T2 (to be changed for faction SB) 1 Shield Boost Amplifier T2 (to be changed for a faction SBA) 2 Invul T2 2 Hardeners T2 ----------------------------------- 5 Cap Flux Coils T2 ----------------------------------- 3 CCC Rigs
Tank runs indefinitely, Resists are 80 to 83% and has a defence of 660 on EFT.
Suggestions welcome to increase DPS tho Anger is a Gift |

Saarjuk Khan
Caldari Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:32:00 -
[754]
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
6x arby cruise, 2x 720mm II (have to fit something)
1x Caldari Navy XL booster 1x best Named Amp 3x Active hardeners depending on mission 1x cap recharger II
2x BCS II 3x PDU II
3x CCC rigs
with 3 hardeners your resists will be too low i think. Also a cap recharger is a wasted slot imo.
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Poision Kevin
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Posted - 2008.01.17 19:12:00 -
[755]
Edited by: Poision Kevin on 17/01/2008 19:14:37 i use this setup:
HIGH
6 t-2 launchers or arbalast if possible, and 2 medium or large autocannons.
i prefare best named med autocannons or t-2 large
MED
1 XL shield booster best or t-2 and 1 100mn ab t-2 and 4 shield hardners t-2 for mission typ or u can do like this instead in your MED slot:3 large shiel extenders and 3 spefic hardners
LOW
1Damage controll t-2 1 ballastic controll unit t-2 and 3 power diagnostic systems t-2 or best
rigs:
shield hardner 1 thermenal and 1 EM and 1 ccc
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Krylon Rhae
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Posted - 2008.01.20 08:03:00 -
[756]
Although I have been in EVE for about 14 months, I just now have gottten around to getting my first Raven. I managed to pickup a good deal on a contract for a fully fitted and rigged Raven and wanted to check what everyone's feedback was on the setup...
Hi Slots: 6 Arby cruise 2 empty slots at the moment
Mid Slots: 1 XL T2 shield booster 1 T2 shield boost amp 2 T2 shield resist amps (mission specific) 2 T2 cap rechargers (this baby does not hold a cap charge to save its soul - I am use to the infinte passive tank of the drake)
Low slots: 1 BCS 1 WCS 3 PDS
Rigs: 1 Bayloader accelerator 1 Warhead Flare Cat 1 Warhead Rigor Cat
In the mid-slots I was thinking of dropping the XL booster and replaceing with a large T2 Booster and putting in 4 shield resist amps (2 of each rat specific type) and 1 cap recharger...
Any Thoughts on the setup and possible changes would be greatly appreciated.
BTW... my shield, mechanic and drone skills are awesome but missile skills are still in need of short term work.
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recoil serenity
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:46:00 -
[757]
Edited by: recoil serenity on 20/01/2008 11:46:13 This is a raven set-up that i have used and it is fine for level 4 missions
top 6 caldari cruise launchers 2 1200 republic fleet artillery can change one for tractor beam
medium 1 caldari XL sheild booster 1 caldari shield boost amp 2 caldari shield hardeners (mission specific) 1 Invul T2 1 T2 cap booster
low 2 dark blood PDU's 3 caldari BCS's
I run the same set-up on my CNR with 7 launchers and a 1400 rep fleet artillery it work a treat 
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Elissa
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Saarjuk Khan 6 x Arbalest Cruise Launcher 1 x Tractor 1 x Salvager ------------------------------------ 1 XL-Shieldbooster T2 (to be changed for faction SB) 1 Shield Boost Amplifier T2 (to be changed for a faction SBA) 2 Invul T2 2 Hardeners T2 ----------------------------------- 5 Cap Flux Coils T2 ----------------------------------- 3 CCC Rigs
Tank runs indefinitely, Resists are 80 to 83% and has a defence of 660 on EFT.
Suggestions welcome to increase DPS tho
There is no way that your tank runs indefinitely. That booster takes 368 energy over 5 secs = requires 73.6 cap recharge per second to maintain. Add to that your 2 hardeners and 2 invulns... No way!
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Miki Sawaguchi
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Posted - 2008.01.25 23:06:00 -
[759]
Edited by: Miki Sawaguchi on 25/01/2008 23:10:11 I'm using
6x arb cruise I's 2x hvy dim nos - 1x invuln field t2 2x ballistic deflection field t2 1x heat dis t2 2x cap recharger - 2x power diagnostic system t2 3x Ballistic control system t2 - Rigs 3x capacitor control circuit I -
Suggestions?
Note: I cant use xl shield boosters.. would have to use a reg one if i get one.
Also.. when people say hardeners... I suppose the mean shield ones.. like the heat dissipation right.. not "armor kenetic hardener II's" because i use shields.. and that wouldnt help me.. (or would it? srry im a newb)
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Lil Mina
Caldari FireTech Pure.
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Posted - 2008.01.27 21:36:00 -
[760]
Edited by: Lil Mina on 27/01/2008 21:37:29
Originally by: Miki Sawaguchi Edited by: Miki Sawaguchi on 25/01/2008 23:33:59 I'm using
6x arb cruise I's 2x hvy dim nos - 1x invuln field t2 2x ballistic deflection field t2 1x heat dis t2 2x cap recharger - 2x power diagnostic system t2 3x Ballistic control system t2 - Rigs 3x capacitor control circuit I -
Suggestions?
Note: I cant use xl shield boosters.. would have to use a reg one if i get one.
Also.. when people say hardeners... I suppose the mean shield ones.. like the heat dissipation right.. not "armor kenetic hardener II's" because i use shields.. and that wouldnt help me.. (or would it? srry im a newb)
If i toss in a large shield booster t2(swap out 1 cap recharger2), and run them all at once i can last like 8 1/2 mins lol. (doing missions for caldari navy, usually meeting gurista varients)
gives me 88kin / 72exp / 73therm resists(shields)
if you have to ask simple questions like that while flying a BS, you really shouldn't waste your time running those missions, but instead try and find a decent corp that will teach you well.
no offense mate
*edit - pm me ingame if you are looking for a decent corp, i might be able to point you in the right direction
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Xionex
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Posted - 2008.01.31 08:49:00 -
[761]
So what do you gurus of this forum think of using Semiconductors instead of CCC rigs to give a Pvp aspect to the Raven??? Yes, I know these are 40+ million ISK apiece...
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Will Tippin
Frontier Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.03 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Will Tippin on 03/02/2008 16:34:49 Been flipping through the pages here, but can't say I find any that really satisfy me. This is what I've been using for a long time. Worlds collide can be a bit tough, but I've always manged it with this setup:
High: 6x t2 cruise launchers 1x Heavy diminishing 1x Drone Augmentor
Med: 1x t2 XL Shield booster 1x t2 shield boost amp 1x t2 passive EM hardener 1x t2 passive kinetic hardener 1x t2 passive thermal hardener 1x t2 invulnerability field
Lows: 1x t2 Co-Proc (if possible, i would put a BCU/PDU here and leave the two last hi-slots empty, but my skills won't allow it 2x t2 BCU 2x t2 PDU
Rigs: 1x EM-screen 2x CCC
I change drones depending on what I need for the mission.
I never have to change this setup, because the resists are all fairly high, and the shield booster can run for ages (not indefinately, but for a really really long time). I find the drone augmentor extremely useful, compared to an extra heavy diminishing or a tractor beam. If things get too tough, you can swap the hardeners around to be mission specific, but I haven't had to do that for a long time. Not after I finished training the shield compensation resistance skills.
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U93AJAX
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Posted - 2008.02.04 09:55:00 -
[763]
Often found the T2 Heavy Cap Booster(w/800s) a real bonus in a mid for the heavy hitting Lvl4s...saves having to warp out and in when shields are taking a pounding.Otherwise for the easier Missions use a T2 Cap Recharger which frees up enough CPU for a Smartbomb or something else. Otherwise my set up pretty standard- Arby Cruises T2 XL Booster,named amp,3 T2 Hardeners 3 BCU2s 2PDU2s 3xCCC
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avalanches
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Posted - 2008.02.04 11:22:00 -
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Highslot: 6x CN cruisemissile launchers (usually just tech 1 .. because lets face it lvl 4 is not that hard). 1x drone agu unit 1x tractor(named if you like).
Medium Slot: 1x gist a-type Large shield booster 1x Active tech 2 invul field 2x Active CN shield harderner (usually like 2 heat and 2 kin and so on... you know depending on what mission I run). 2x CN shield booster amplifier(usually T1 x 2)
Lowslot: 1x pds 1x warp stablizer (yes it have saved my ships many times from warpscrambling frigs). 3x bcs's.
rig: ccc1 x 3
Pack medium drones for close defence with the blaster...
I do most missions solo, missions I have had problem with is missions like Right hand of Zazzmatazz.. and a couple of others, usually just warp out a few times. No problem taking out 2 mill rats with this one, and a few modification and you even fight PvP with this one.
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari FlyinPenguin Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.02.04 14:19:00 -
[765]
Originally by: Saarjuk Khan
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
6x arby cruise, 2x 720mm II (have to fit something)
1x Caldari Navy XL booster 1x best Named Amp 3x Active hardeners depending on mission 1x cap recharger II
2x BCS II 3x PDU II
3x CCC rigs
with 3 hardeners your resists will be too low i think. Also a cap recharger is a wasted slot imo.
I do just fine with 3 hardners. Not incl EA5, of course.
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Novgond Galathil
Caldari Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.02.05 04:09:00 -
[766]
Edited by: Novgond Galathil on 05/02/2008 04:11:32 wanted to post an idea for my raven before i go and buy the stuff... What do you guys think?
[Highs] 6 Arbalest Cruise (missiles to specific enemy) 1 Heavy NOS - T2 won't fit
[Mid] 2 T2 Shield Boost Amp 1 T2 X-Large Shield Booster 1 T2 Heavy Capacitor Booster with +200 Charges 2 T2 Invulnerability Field (or rat specific hardeners)
[Low] 3 T2 Capacitor Flux Coil 2 T2 Ballistic Control System
[Rigs] You guessed it 3 CCCs (thats Capacitor Control Circuit for those not in the know...)
From what I can deduce this will more or less perma-run, does good damage and has about 215 shields boosted a second.
I've had a really hard time thinking about how to fit this. I come from using a passively tanked Drake and am trying to justify upgrading to a Raven... It does about 20% more damage, which is big, but I want it to tank as well or better... At first this was a long term project but then I just lost my Drake to some darn warp scrambling buggers on a particularly hard mission.
Anywho it takes a lot of skills to fit this, but I am only a few hours away from having them.
Thoughts, comments, and criticisms welcome!
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Stocktons
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Posted - 2008.02.05 10:54:00 -
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I use the following:
highs: 6x arbi cruise 1x salvager 1x empty
Mids: 1x XL-shield booster II 1x Shield boost amp II 4x rat specific hardeners (2 each)
lows: 3x BCU II 2x PDU II
Rigs: 3x CCC
Drones: Rat specific dmg type, 2 heavy 2 med 1 small.
It doesn't perma run this set-up but I didn't find any mission that gave me a problem tanking so far (lvl 4 ofc). 1-2 volleying cruisers and bc's. Bs's go down fast aswell, but depends on faction. frigates go down in 1 volley unless there around you, then drones come in handy.
I didn't bother training cruise missile spec yet, but all my other missile skills are at lvl 5, as well as all shield skills and caldari bs.
Any suggestions for improvement, I read above that 3 hardeners are sufficiant enough aswell, I might switch one hardener for...(insert your idea?)
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Leathlord
The Iron Wolves
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Posted - 2008.02.05 15:58:00 -
[768]
Hi I just wanted some feedback on this one:
Hi: 6 Torpedo Launchers (probably tech 2 for the anti-frig torpedoes)
Medium: Tech 2 XL shield booster Tech 2 shield amp passive(or active) em hardener passive (or active) thermal hardener passive (or active) kinetic hardener
low: 1-4x BCU 1-4x pds 1x Damage control II
tell me what you think
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Caelus Heliodromus
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:45:00 -
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I also have a fit to toss in the ring for evaluation.
I have yet to run a Level 4, and my primary experience has been a passive Drake. I run my missions in Minmatar space against the Angel Cartel & Amarr Empire, primarily.
Hi: 6x Arby Cruises 1x Salvager & 1x Tractor (Useless?)
Mid: 1x T2 XL Shield Booster 1x T1 Shield Amplifier (until I get shield management up) 2x T2 Hardeners 1x T2 Invul Field 1x T2 Heavy Cap Booster (800s)
Lows: 3x T2 BCU 1x T2 PDU 1x T2 DC
Rigs: 1x CCC 1x Core Defense Sa***uard
With my skills:
Shield Resists EM-77.7, Th-76.6, Kin-63, Expl-75.4
With the cap booster I can perma-run the shield booster for an EFT defense rating of 598.
257 DPS from missiles, a bit more with my mediocre T1 drones. That's only 40 DPS higher than my dual-BCU Drake. EFT defense rating is a ~150 higher, but requires a lot of cap charges to maintain.
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Oblit3rat1on
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:54:00 -
[770]
What would be your perfect money no object Raven lvl 4 setup?
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Ong
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Posted - 2008.02.08 10:29:00 -
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Ok so Im just about to start doing lvl 4's did a few in a Maelstrom but it took ages as as soon as they get inside your optimal the damage drops way down. so I decided to get a Raven as it seems to be 'the' lvl 4 ship. I was wanting some input on the setup and figures please:
Rigs: 3ccc
Low: Capacitor Flux Coil II x3 Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I x2
Midd: X-Large Shield Booster II 5a Prototype Shield Boost Support I (will be tech 2 soon) Tech 2 Active rat specific hardener x4
High: XT-9000 Cruise Launcher x6 Either 200mm Vulcan Autocannon II x2 or x1 with a Drone Link augmentor I
This perma-runs and can tank 1194dps against Angels which is the main Rat where I mission, and does 2059 per volly. So what do you think? Will it be able to do most lvl 4's? |

voxen
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.02.08 12:28:00 -
[772]
Originally by: Ong Ok so Im just about to start doing lvl 4's did a few in a Maelstrom but it took ages as as soon as they get inside your optimal the damage drops way down. so I decided to get a Raven as it seems to be 'the' lvl 4 ship. I was wanting some input on the setup and figures please:
Rigs: 3ccc
Low: Capacitor Flux Coil II x3 Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I x2
Midd: X-Large Shield Booster II 5a Prototype Shield Boost Support I (will be tech 2 soon) Tech 2 Active rat specific hardener x4
High: XT-9000 Cruise Launcher x6 Either 200mm Vulcan Autocannon II x2 or x1 with a Drone Link augmentor I
This perma-runs and can tank 1194dps against Angels which is the main Rat where I mission, and does 2059 per volly. So what do you think? Will it be able to do most lvl 4's?
if you're running against angels mainly your tank is overkill. (already have nice exp resists on the raven).
you can run them easily with a large t2 shield booster and t2 (or faction) amp plus 4 hardeners.
Replace lows by 3 pds and 2 bcu II's and due to less cap requirements you can go with 1 or 2 ccc's and fit a hardener or dmg mod rig.
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Seraphim Cherub
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Posted - 2008.02.09 16:02:00 -
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I agree. I have been playing w/ this setup on EFT and I can get it to run indefinitely w/ 2 invlun II's, but not 2 additional hardeners. To get it to work w/ the Invuln II's, you need 2 Cap Recharger II's as well as a Nos.
I would like to hear how your setup runs indefinitely..... Please explain.
Originally by: Elissa
Originally by: Saarjuk Khan 6 x Arbalest Cruise Launcher 1 x Tractor 1 x Salvager ------------------------------------ 1 XL-Shieldbooster T2 (to be changed for faction SB) 1 Shield Boost Amplifier T2 (to be changed for a faction SBA) 2 Invul T2 2 Hardeners T2 ----------------------------------- 5 Cap Flux Coils T2 ----------------------------------- 3 CCC Rigs
Tank runs indefinitely, Resists are 80 to 83% and has a defence of 660 on EFT.
Suggestions welcome to increase DPS tho
There is no way that your tank runs indefinitely. That booster takes 368 energy over 5 secs = requires 73.6 cap recharge per second to maintain. Add to that your 2 hardeners and 2 invulns... No way!
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mercyonman
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Posted - 2008.02.10 07:43:00 -
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ok this is my complete raven layout and i can go on just fine
high: 4x cruise (of anykind) 2x seige (up in there face weapons) 1x cloak (when your sheilds get low) 1x (tractor)
med: 2x T2 feild extenders 2x hardenrs needed T2 1x sheild booster T2 cap recharger
low: 5x PDU T2 1x caldari BCU
rig:
feild extender 1 feild extender 1 rocket fuel cache 1
it gets me through the day oh and
skills: all sheild things to 5 cap to 5 energy grid to 5 missles to 5 on both money         
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Akyr
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Posted - 2008.02.10 11:45:00 -
[775]
Originally by: mercyonman ok this is my complete raven layout and i can go on just fine
high: 4x cruise (of anykind) 2x seige (up in there face weapons) 1x cloak (when your sheilds get low) 1x (tractor)
med: 2x T2 feild extenders 2x hardenrs needed T2 1x sheild booster T2 cap recharger
low: 5x PDU T2 1x caldari BCU
rig:
feild extender 1 feild extender 1 rocket fuel cache 1
it gets me through the day oh and
skills: all sheild things to 5 cap to 5 energy grid to 5 missles to 5 on both money         
WTB Raven with 6x low slots
 
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Mr Abbadon
Illuminati Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.10 15:05:00 -
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I find it very hard to hold cap.
at the moment i have:
rigs: 3xCCC
High: 6xArbalest Sieg launchers 1xtractor beam 1x(dont know what to put there)
Med: XL shield booster T2 2x invul field T2 2x spec rat hardeners T2 (should they be active or passive?) 1x (dont know what to put there)
Low: 1x Damage control T2 2x power diagnostic system T2 2x Capacitator flux coil T2
I want to survive lv4 missions to be able to tank them pretty well, hints and suggestions please?
_______________________________________________________________ Quote: [22:28] <Druid> as far as I know the BPO's were gotten legitimately.
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HellSpeed
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:05:00 -
[777]
Originally by: mercyonman 1x cloak (when your sheilds get low)
You have some sort of cloak-when-aggroed-and-about-to-die sort of skill?
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Zanjutsu
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:15:00 -
[778]
[Raven, Raven Setup] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Shield Boost Amplifier I Large Shield Booster II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
What does everyone think of this setup? I'm fairly low skilled mind you.
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EthicsGradient
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Posted - 2008.02.13 23:16:00 -
[779]
I'm using something similar:-
Lo: 2 T2 BCU 2 T2 PDS 1 T2 Cap Flux Coil
Med: LG T2 Shield Booster Shield Boost Amp (using Domi as don't have the skills for T2 yet) 2 T2 Kin hdnrs 2 T2 Therm hdnrs
Hi: 6 cruise 2 1200mm arties
(Pack 7 medium drones - they will take care of frigs ok)
With skills at 4/5 perma runs and tanks just over 600dps which seems to be enough for most L4's if you research the triggers on the spawns.
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Xalorous
War Dawgs Cursed Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.02.17 16:34:00 -
[780]
Originally by: Ong Ok so Im just about to start doing lvl 4's did a few in a Maelstrom but it took ages as as soon as they get inside your optimal the damage drops way down. so I decided to get a Raven as it seems to be 'the' lvl 4 ship. I was wanting some input on the setup and figures please:
Rigs: 3ccc
Low: Capacitor Flux Coil II x3 Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I x2
Midd: X-Large Shield Booster II 5a Prototype Shield Boost Support I (will be tech 2 soon) Tech 2 Active rat specific hardener x4
High: XT-9000 Cruise Launcher x6 Either 200mm Vulcan Autocannon II x2 or x1 with a Drone Link augmentor I
This perma-runs and can tank 1194dps against Angels which is the main Rat where I mission, and does 2059 per volly. So what do you think? Will it be able to do most lvl 4's?
CPR is a BAD thing for any shield boosting ship, put anything else there.
Xalorous --- I hold no position of authority. All comments are my own, and I take sole responsibility for them.
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