Yes. You can only fleet warp to things that any member of your fleet could warp to, no matter what corp or alliances they are a part of.

Ok so what about the person who has multi accounts in this game.....................


did u ever think of them??? We rely on the fleet warp to get us from point A to B.

Everyone in this game HAS A ALT and enjoys the fleet warp option to help move things around. It just makes the gaming that much easier and once again U SCREW IT ALL UP all because you are thinking of one group and forgetting the rest of us.

The change restriction is too high and affects too many areas of life in Eve, from Kspace, to Null, to Wspace. I would propose a smaller iteration to address the concerns of how fleet warp mechanics now work.

• Permit Squad Commanders in a fleet to fleet-warp their squad to bookmarks and probed sigs.

Essentially you move the capabilities of the overall fleet and wing commander down to the squad level. You remove the big flying balls of hurt down to decisions made by the squad commander, permitting them to decide on tactical warp ins, locations and fleet warps for their squad.

You restrict fleet warps down to a 10 man team, with a individual per 10 man team making individual decisions for that 10 man team, to support the fleet efforts.

Fleet and Wing commanders would lose this ability to warp entire armada's to bookmarks and scanned sigs, but permit smaller skirmish groups/squads to warp their small group to them.

You move the leadership role of getting tacticals and flying to the leader of the squad, reducing the blob down to at most, 10 pilots, vs the 100+ null runs into. You now create a new leadership dynamic, and permit new people to have a stepping stone to becoming a Fleet Commander. Squad Leaders gain power, and have a relevant role verses just being a booster for their fleetmates.

I'd start with baby steps first, commonly known as "A Iteration" (Thanks for that CCP Rise).

Remove the ability for fleet commanders and wing commanders from warping entire groups to bookmarks and scan probes, and reduce it down to the squad level.

Try that first. See how it actually works.

Warping yourself or warping to Wwwww's in fleet Zomgz life is over .

Somone who is on a station (stations can be fleet warped to) is already safe?

Then why not adjust combat probing, or how quickly fleets warp instead of changing something unrelated that has effects beyond the stated goal?

Normally, I respect your opinion, but this just makes no sense. What are you even talking about?

But this doesn't actually reduce the power of bombers. Cuse ya know they are still just as powerful as before. Bombs aren't affected by this change and neither are bombers capabilities. You can still fleet warp to a cloaky on grid and bombers can still do the same amount of damage as before. This change just makes no sense.

Good suggestion and this is the exact reason CCP asks for feedback in these threads

In your opinion. And the 42 pages of mostly negative feedback seem to think that by and large, your opinion sucks almost as much as your attitude towards people with different opinions.

Sadly there's no mechanic for impeaching CSM members - because you and most of your brethren would be on the docket right now after the buggy / broken / terrible map, the "new and improved" icons, and now this.

4) Player deployed warp beacons. More use for WH's and system defenders I imagine but these can be deployed and can be be seen by all in system.

reduce the speed at which fleets can get on top of targets (e.g bombers).

You need better scouts. If I tell my scout to make rolling safes, and he says, "Ugh, fine if I have to", I will leave his ass to die at the next gate camp (and I might help them kill him).

The FC runs the fleet, the members carry out tasks issued by the FC. If the members are incapable or unwilling to carry out those tasks, replace them. It's just that simple.

The days of the FC basically doing everything but clicking "Jump" and pushing "F1" need to die with a furious vengenace in the firey pits of hades.

Go watch the Eve is real trailer again and ask yourself where the hero interceptors are these days?

The goal of these changes is to encourage more individual fleet member participation and reduce the speed at which fleets can get on top of targets (e.g bombers).

Q: CCP, why you do this?
A: We want transfer more responsibility for the success of a fleet from its FC to its members.

News flash to CCP: real people who play the game are the most precious asset in this game.

Your changes, however, make the game increasingly tedious and obnoxious to play, which drives away the real people.

There is no FC on the cluster who would rather have another alt in fleet than a real person. I already delegate every possible task to my corp mates that I possibly can - the ones I keep for myself are the ones that I cannot delegate to someone who only has one account and will have no fun filling that role.

Come up with some truly rewarding roles for people in fleets. As it is, you keep multiplying the number of thankless roles that are best done on an alt - because your business strategy seems to be to squeeze as much out of the existing humans as possible.


In the past I described Eve as "white-knuckled, trembling hands, exciting." I'd literally sweat during a fight. Now the words I would use are "tedious, a chore, like a second job." The only reason I still play or stay at all engaged with Eve is because I feel I owe it to my friends to keep logging in and participating. My masochism is steadily wearing thin. Playing Eve should not be an unpleasant or boring experience, yet that is what you have been doing over the course of the past year. I accepted jump fatigue because it promised good things - it was bitter medicine that might save Eve. Now we have fatigue, entosis, and this nonsense.

You have a very narrow idea of what is fun in Eve - not everyone enjoys your pseudo-solo/small gang elitist PVP mentality. Most people just want to log in and have fun playing Eve with their friends. Make Eve easy to play - not another chore. The challenge should come from the other players, not from the interface or silly restrictions.

What you need is a bandaid for a few hedge cases of large fleet encounters, and you instead order a brain surgery.

This change would be horrible. You should encourage the smashing of fleets onto each other more; half the problem of big fleet fights is the ease of disengagement because every damn thing out there worth flying doesn't brawl. Higher body count encounters where fleets can't just wisp away from each other easily is a GOOD THING, and this change more or less helps fleets be really picky about engagements. It continually amazes me how little ISK in ships is lost in fights in null compared to what is fielded; the meta does enough work to keep fleets alive, why would you exacerbate this more and take one of the few tools that lets kiting fleets be punished?

Fix bombers separately. Jesus.

Hi Mates,

The original post has been updated with a few more Q&A's answering some of your questions. We've got a lot of amazing feedback and we're going to go back to the CSM with some ideas. Expect an update next week.

Have a great weekend!

Hi Mates,

The original post has been updated with a few more Q&A's answering some of your questions. We've got a lot of amazing feedback and we're going to go back to the CSM with some ideas. Expect an update next week.

Have a great weekend!

not really, after you align to your next site, instead of your FC warping you he gives the command "warp now" or "warp to b" and boom, you're doing the same thing you did before.


you're welcome that I fixed wormholing for you :)

Hi Mates,

The original post has been updated with a few more Q&A's answering some of your questions. We've got a lot of amazing feedback and we're going to go back to the CSM with some ideas. Expect an update next week.

Have a great weekend!

And al the different ship classess arrive in dibs and drabs and are obliterated because there was no logi or support for the logi.

Brilliant.

Or did you forget they all warp at different speeds now? You did, didn't you.....

And al the different ship classess arrive in dibs and drabs and are obliterated because there was no logi or support for the logi.

Brilliant.

Or did you forget they all warp at different speeds now? You did, didn't you.....

Would you be able to address mixed corp/alliance fleets in the OP as well, or will that be addressed next week?

Hi Mates,

The original post has been updated with a few more Q&A's answering some of your questions. We've got a lot of amazing feedback and we're going to go back to the CSM with some ideas. Expect an update next week.

Have a great weekend!

Fleet participation =/= sitting in space pretending to be a bookmark. That's not very engaging.

Fleet participation =/= sitting in space pretending to be a bookmark. That's not very engaging.

1. Cloaked alt warps first
2. FC warps Fleet to that alt

Fixed