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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:07:07 -
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Hi Gentle Space Foke,
As announced on the o7 show we are making some changes to fleet warp. Fleet Commanders, Wing Commanders & Squad Commanders will no longer be able to warp to anything a fleet member couldnGÇÖt warp to on their own. This includes GÇô
- Probe Results
- Bookmarks
- Any private deadspace item (missions, etc.)
Commanders will still be able to warp their fleet to other fleet members, and all other GÇÿpublicGÇÖ objects. The goal of these changes is to encourage more individual fleet member participation and reduce the speed at which fleets can get on top of targets (e.g bombers).
Q&As Q: When is this being implemented? A: Aegis (July)
Q: What if every member of the fleet has the bookmark? A: Nope, sorry, no go.
Q: Can I still fleet warp to planets/moons/stations/cynos/anoms? A: Yes!
Q: CCP, why you do this? A: We want transfer more responsibility for the success of a fleet from its FC to its members.
Q: CCP, will there be more fleet warp changes in the future? A: Probably, yes.
Dev Note: Its late in Reykjavik so you may not see a Dev response until tomorrow. However we want to give plenty of time for feedback and we will be watching this thread closely. |
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2479
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:09:39 -
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RIP: Bomber wings Slippery petes Off-gate ganking (More to follow)
So, if I have this right, basically warp-tos for all non-public entities is a no-go? |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
12926
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:10:48 -
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Rowells wrote:RIP Bomber wings
You'll still be able to use them, but this will slow the speed at which they usually hit their targets. We consider that a very good outcome.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie
http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/
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Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
484
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:13:05 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote: As announced on the o7 show we are making some changes to fleet warp. [b]Fleet Commanders, Wing Commanders & Squad Commanders will no longer be able to warp to anything a fleet member couldnGÇÖt warp to on their own. This includes GÇô
Bookmarks
Does this include corporation bookmarks that the person in the same corp could warp to?
Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
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BadAssMcKill
ElitistOps
987
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:13:39 -
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Have you considered making the game more fun for a change |
Faren Shalni
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
135
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:14:55 -
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RIP Wspace
So Much Space
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
12926
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:14:58 -
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Hopelesshobo wrote:CCP Larrikin wrote: As announced on the o7 show we are making some changes to fleet warp. Fleet Commanders, Wing Commanders & Squad Commanders will no longer be able to warp to anything a fleet member couldnGÇÖt warp to on their own. This includes GÇô
Bookmarks Does this include corporation bookmarks that the person in the same corp could warp to?
Yes. You can only fleet warp to things that any member of your fleet could warp to, no matter what corp or alliances they are a part of.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie
http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/
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Propolis
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
49
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:15:00 -
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You're literally ******** - This change is abysmal, seriously... |
McReaction
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
8
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:15:33 -
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This is a terrible april fools..... oh wait, it's not the 1st of April?
uhhh..... |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2479
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:15:46 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Rowells wrote:RIP Bomber wings You'll still be able to use them, but this will slow the speed at which they usually hit their targets. We consider that a very good outcome. Oh, I'm not complaining...too much.
However I wonder if axing all the potential warp-ins is necessary? Could the broadcast 'warp-to' be extended to allow members to warp themselves to specific targets that were warp able before? |
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Dunk Dinkle
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
81
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:16:00 -
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It appears that to nerf bombers, you are nerfing all fleets. |
utec asmo
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:16:15 -
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How dare you change the mechanics of the game??? Do you even EVE, bro? |
Sparrow Creature
V.O.I.D. Shadow Cartel
6
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:16:37 -
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this change will kill wormhole just saying.. |
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
36
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:16:45 -
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So, to run anoms (in w-space) we can't easily warp there all together anymore. Everyone will need the probe scanner window open/have bookmarks or have to wait for one player to have landed. Alliance bookmarks would only make that slightly less of an issue.
That's just one example of how people will become unnecessarily more vulnarable, or things taking more time. |
Jeremiah Cole
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
17
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:17:30 -
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I'm glad we're seeing changes that were thought through with all sects of EVE warfare in mind. |
Reyko DU93
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:18:42 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Rowells wrote:RIP Bomber wings You'll still be able to use them, but this will slow the speed at which they usually hit their targets. We consider that a very good outcome.
Just as I started flying bombers |
Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1530
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:18:45 -
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BadAssMcKill wrote:Have you considered making the game more fun for a change
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HiddenPorpoise
Expendable Miscreants
355
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:18:46 -
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Does this mean I can't herd noobs into 4s in a fleet? That's dumb. |
Ele Rebellion
Dead Star Syndicate
38
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:19:03 -
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Concern about this is WH space.
We don't have gates we can warp to and have to rely on the Bookmarks of the wormhole.
Edit: What I mean is if we have non-corp members that we are trying to move through a chain to a target, it will slow the entire fleet by 100% since a fleet member will have to warp ahead and then the entire fleet will have to warp to that fleet member. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
1798
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:19:16 -
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Doing this without implementing alliance bookmarks first is a huge mistake. I beg you to reconsider.
Signature Tanking Best Tanking
Exploration Frontier Inc [Ex-F] CEO - BRAVE - Eve-guides.fr
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5339
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:19:26 -
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ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:So, to run anoms (in w-space) we can't easily warp there all together anymore. Everyone will need the probe scanner window open/have bookmarks or have to wait for one player to have landed. Alliance bookmarks would only make that slightly less of an issue.
That's just one example of how people will become unnecessarily more vulnarable, or things taking more time.
Anoms yes, Sigs no.
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Steven Hackett
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
144
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:19:55 -
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Bookmarks and scan results is (almost) everything we ever use fleet warp for in W-space.
Why not remove it all together and be done with it? |
Teebeutel
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:19:57 -
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I dont see the problem that a lot of people seem to see for wormhole fleets, using corp bookmarks and having fleet members warp to those individually should do just fine. |
Steven Hackett
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
144
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:20:56 -
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Teebeutel wrote:I dont see the problem that a lot of people seem to see for wormhole fleets, using corp bookmarks and having fleet members warp to those individually should do just fine. Only if they are propagated for all client, which due to ****** CCP code, can take up towards 10 minuts. |
luredivino
Star Frontiers Test Alliance Please Ignore
55
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:20:59 -
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Because running missions together in groups is killing this game |
Patriarch Zeal
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:21:38 -
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HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE GOOD INTY PILOTS THAT NEVER DIE |
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
365
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:22:26 -
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The game is about to get a whole lot more interesting... Do people like change? No, not usually...
This is not the end of the world. It doesn't kill WH PvP, it changes it... |
Jayne Fillon
710
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:23:09 -
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ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:So, to run anoms (in w-space) we can't easily warp there all together anymore. Everyone will need the probe scanner window open/have bookmarks or have to wait for one player to have landed. Alliance bookmarks would only make that slightly less of an issue.
That's just one example of how people will become unnecessarily more vulnarable, or things taking more time.
While true, this change hurts missions moreso than anoms. The character that actually pulled the mission will have to physically be on grid before the rest of the fleet can start warping to the site.
Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.
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Rena Senn
Middle-aged pony tail
145
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:23:26 -
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Dunk Dinkle wrote:It appears that to nerf bombers, you are nerfing all fleets. Pretty much standard for CCP at this point. Medium rails are broken on range bonused ships? Nerf rails for everything! Capships spawn too close to wormholes? All ships spawn farther away! Bombers are too strong? Remove fleet warps for everyone!
I look forward to CCP's impending removal of all other ship classes in their effort to rebalance battlecruisers. |
Hong Hu
EVE University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:24:09 -
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Well, to compensate for individual responsibility for warping (in Stealth Bombers) maybe we can change back to a 10 second flight time for the actual bombs? The change makes the setup for launch more challenging. But the end game of the bomb launch shouldn't also suffer. Back to 10 seconds, please. |
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