* The window size is by design and does not allow Maximization at this time. I am working to allow this feature soon.

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Owned blueprint filter under the manufacturing tab is broken. It is showing everything, not simply what I own.
It fixed itself after I hit refresh a couple of times.

Tower settings need a place to select charters and the type of charters needed. Cost per slot needs a way to input in the number of active slots.

It would be nice if this could could tie back into blueprints to give a cost per level of ME/PE. An ISK per hour calculator where I could input a contracts sale price with start and end ME/PE levels for a selected blueprint would be helpful. A way to do the same with copyslots would be helpful (though that is probably non-complex enough to do easily with a spreadsheet).

For the hub systems, is there any way to set a designated market alt and take their skills/standings into account?

Does this program take implants into account?

For T1 ships it would be nice to be able to compare the isk per hour for building off the print with the isk per hour of selling copies.

Big thanks for this! Lots of new features and "quality of life" changes to make using the program even easier. When checking for updates on my old version, I was provided a link to the website to download the new version, but clicking on it took me to the former required access DB page from microsoft.

Just thought I'd provide a bit of bug and feature related feedback:

-The Manufacturing list filters are very buggy. Couldn't get it to work until I added my own blueprints in the manager. "All BPO" filter doesn't work until you do a calculation of your own blueprints, then change the filter back to "All blueprints". Simply doesn't do anything until then.

As the above poster said the "Owned blueprints" filter is also odd. I have it showing my owned blueprints, plus every single T3 blueprint as well, which I do not own.

The window size is by design and does not allow Maximization at this time. I am working to allow this feature soon.
Window does indeed allow maximization, but the actual contents of the program in the window do not resize with it.

I tried to "reset stored blueprint data" in the manage blueprints menu option, in an attempt to resolve my blueprint issues, and got this error: An Unhandled Exception has occured and EVE Isk per Hour will now close...

Really love the changes to the price window - much less clicking required and much easier!

Something I personally would love to see: on the blueprints tab, when typing in the name of something, it fills in as you go, much like EVE MEEP does. Also so you can type in a full(or partial name if it finds the item you want), maybe just hit down arrow to select it, then hit enter to bring up the info on the blueprint you selected. So: click on blueprint box, type in "medium cargo" , at this point I'd get a dropdown that contained the only 2 items with "medium cargohold" in the name - the T1 and T2 rigs. I could now press down arrow once to get the t1 BP, and twice for the T2 one. Pressing enter would confirm my selection and the blueprint page would update. I think that'd be great.

Thanks again for this awesome program!

SVR numbers feel low. Are you maybe counting the current day as a full day when doing the average? Either that or the low volume on Mondays and Tuesdays is throwing the average for the rest of the week.

Edit-Calculate average price strikes me as dangerous. I want to know the average price but I also want to know how things look in Jita right now.

-edit3: Although some way to know how much above or under 180 day average a products current price is would be quite handy.

-edit4: Of course if you do that you might as well flag products where current supply is a standard deviation away from average supply. That would allow for detection of both spikes and gluts.

Excellent app. Im having a slight issue with importing corp BPOs however. It keeps telling me I dont have API with asset list while I know I do. Even in the API management window when I select corp api key it has "asset list" checkmarked.

Any ideas?

Hi there,

I've been using your program for 2 months now and I have to say it's really saving me a lot of time and work I would have to do otherwise. After beating the crap out of excel sheets and thinking about putting together a similar project I came across yours and I'm really happy that I didn't have to do it myself ;-) I think there will be some isk left within the next couple of days after paying for the game time which will go to your wallet then, really appreciate your work.

This said, I got some bugs bothering me since 2.0 came out yesterday. It's almost always crashing the program with this message: "Object reference not set to an instance of an object." I'm working with windows 7 professional, 64bit.

The first one which I could identify can be reproduced as follows:

1. Get a price update (if you haven't already earlier)
2. Select any blueprint in the "Blueprint" tab
3. Click the "Add to shopping list" button
4. Go back to the "Update Price" tab
5. Import prices again
6. Program crashes

Hope this can get fixed anyhow, I really like to check prices in different regions and look how much I can save buying there. The need to rebuild the shopping list after each price update is really annoying.

Cheers mate

Am I wrong in thinking that the manufacturing list screen now shows a 30 day average and not the current lowest sell order?

Feature Request: Set prices based multiple trade hub systems

Rational: A manufacturer may be willing to visit several trade hubs to buy/sell at a better price. It s not that hard to visit a few trade hubs, but its a lot harder to track down and visit the cheapest systems from multiple regions, especially if you have a long shopping list.

Detail: In the 'update prices' tab, allow multiple trade hub systems to be selected, so if 'minimum sell' price import type was selected, the final price would be the minimum price from all the selected trade hubs (systems not regions).

Thanks

Think I just found a bug.

The manufacturing calculator doesn't take in consideration owned vs unowned, even if you click the owned BPO filter button.

Plus: A reminder on a recommendation I made prior, can we get a method of tracking current manufacturing orders and a method for defining production "baskets", a group of BPOs that are typically produced together?

I'm not seeing the issue you are having with the manufacturing calculator. Do you have specific options selected? I've tried a few different variations and have the same result.

On your other recommendations, I'll be working on several of them in the old thread and here in a short while. Just want to get all the main bugs worked out of this first.

Strange. No big difference in the options. Go to Manufacturing, change the filter from all BPs to Owned BPs, Hit preview item list, shows T2 BP that I dont own. Hit calculate, and it throws up the "Will take some time warning" and then it calculates the BPOs. This being said, the list appears to be different from the "All BPs" filter, kind of like some T2 BPs, etc are leaking in to my Owned BP screen.

Glad to hear you will be working on the recommendations.

Thanks for the response and I hope you can reproduce this bug.

For some reason I can't see my owned BPO/BPC anywhere. I thought those would be imported with the asset list?

Interesting suggestion. I can do it. It'll take longer to update the prices, but not an issue. The problem though will be on the output. I guess I could just list the hub I imported the price from in the grid? I'm trying to figure out how you would use this. I'm assuming that you would update prices, add a few items to the shopping list, then I output the price plus the location it was imported?

If that's what you are thinking I can do it, but it'll take a bit of work.

If you imported them from your assets in Blueprint Management, then you need to mark them as owned there to have them used in the main screens. The assets API doesn't give the ME/PE of the BP's so you need to manually enter them and save them there.

An Owned BP will show up in the manufacturing tab with a tanned line.

Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks!

I was really just thinking about having accurate prices to be used when calculating manufacturing costs.

I assume it could be implemented the same way as when multiple regions are selected.

Jita is a good system to use for prices for most things, but for low end minerals its expensive, which distorts the manufacturing costs when trying to workout what to make. A recent example i came across is producing Capital Construction Parts, Jita is a good place to sell them, but its not a good place to buy the minerals to make them. I could select multiple regions to get a more accurate price, but in reality im not prepared to fly to any system in the regions i select to get a good price, im happy with the best price at any of the major trade hubs.

I dont think its essential to report what system/region the best price is (but i do it in a crude spreadhseet i have), but getting accurate prices is always important.

Thanks

This may seem like a newb question, but can anyone explain to me how the following Price Types work:
"Average" anything, is it a 30 day average?
Buy & Sell anything... like "Maximum Buy and Sell for example"

Thanks in advance

Thanks Zif, updated correctly.

Would like to ask a question on the "optimal" capability of the tool - where it picks a component price above a raw material price. Say I want to build a Nyx and look at the "Optimal" method. The tool specifies that buying 2 or 3 ready made components off the market is more cost efficient however, it bases that assumption on the price of the cheapest sell of which there is only 1 or 2 at that price, not the 128 or 504 that I need.

For the best result, what setting would I chose when I import the prices?

Quick question. If I'm looking at a component using item (say a T2 Expanded Cargohold) and I have none of the required component BPOs but I put assume 30/15 into the temp box, does the program assuming I have all the component BPOs at 30/15 or at 0/0?

Also if I have none of the relevant invention/reverse engineering skills but am using the manufacturing tab to evaluate potential profitability how does the program handle it (does it assuming 4/4/4 or something)?

Good catch! This is indeed an issue. I'll tinker around with the options but I think this might be the best I can do. The price data doesn't return the volume for the lowest priced item, I think, so I'm not sure what the solution is here. Given this could happen with all prices so I'll take a look at what I can do.

The Blueprint Combo on the Blueprints Tab will now suggest blueprints by typing in the blueprint name and allow arrow selection from that suggested list

This may be a bug only I experience not sure but you can try to recreate it.

If you goto the blueprint tab, load up a blue print, and delete all numbers in the "Additional Cost" box and either "click out" of the box to highlight something else, or press refresh, the client will crash.

Great program enjoying it so far.

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Would I be rich and powerful, I would give you half my money for that. With the previous version I was able to construct a manufacturing plan capable or racking up 1B per month - which multiplied my initial investment by ten. Unfortunately RL issues prevented that, so you will earn a +1 - your 200th one - until I can safely reward you with the PLEX you deserve.

Thank you.

I'm sure not understanding how you are figuring total invention cost but I'm as of right. If I hover over total invention cost:

Average Successful Invention Cost = Datacores+Decryptors+Install Fees.

I pick an item say Medium Cargohold Optimization II Blueprint.

I import Jita min buy prices. I select Assembly Instructions as my decryptor.

Total Invention Cost = 8,725,820.81.

I bounced over to my prices and check Assembly Instructions.

Cost = 30,700,068.01

So without even including datacores the decryptor cost more than the stated invention cost.

Yeah, that tool tip isn't very helpful.

And of course, I had this beautiful reply and the forum ate it.

Short answer is you are seeing the invention cost for 1 run. If you type in the "End Runs" number when you select the decryptor, you'll see more what the full price is.

Note, the number is a bit low if you select a BPC cost from your tower. I found a bug when I went through your example and I'll get it patched tonight. Not a huge difference but significant.

BTW, your invention cost seems high unless you are using a 1 run BPC, which results in 4 runs. A full run BPC would get you 14.

Let me know if that makes sense.

For the noobish inclined (aka me.):
Can somebody give a quick tutorial on how to work this magnificent piece of coding? Explain it as if you were talking to a dog, won't be offended.

From my understanding:

1st Step: Open the Update Prices Tab and press Import Prices
2: go to Manufacturing List Tab and press Preview Item List
3: Press Calculate
4: At a loss what to do now...

Can somebody give me an example 'How to?'

Thank you VERY much!

Thanks for your response. So are you saying I shouldn't put too much weight into that number at all?

Medium Core Defence Field Extender II - Using Tuning Instructions w/ jita min sell. The result is 1 run so I leave 1 in the Runs box.

Invention Cost 17,162,149.55

Decryptor Cost: 8,162,149.55
Combined data core cost: 1.1 mil - ish.

For the noobish inclined (aka me.):
Can somebody give a quick tutorial on how to work this magnificent piece of coding? Explain it as if you were talking to a dog, won't be offended.

From my understanding:

1st Step: Open the Update Prices Tab and press Import Prices
2: go to Manufacturing List Tab and press Preview Item List
3: Press Calculate
4: At a loss what to do now...

Can somebody give me an example 'How to?'

Thank you VERY much!

Zifrian,

Another feature request/suggestion. Double clicking on a raw material/component on the blueprints tab opens up the set price interface with the item filled in and ready to type in the new price. Or just a quick popup to set price. Price setting really feels "off" and a lot work, and because we're using data from market exports it's not always correct, it can take a good portion of time to set prices for an item you want to build.

I was about to suggest this "addition."

Price editing is difficult and time consuming. A quick way to change the sell price of the item itself, and its components, all from the BP page would be huge.

If I could "change" anything, it'd be this feature!

And thanks for fixing the crash bug...I got into the habit of accidently crashing it!

Zar

The .msi file still says it's for 2.0. Is this the most up to date install?

No, it's the amount that should be included in invention for the final profit calculations. So it's important.

I'll walk through what I do and people can comment/suggest/etc on my method. I want it to be as accurate as possible and this was done in previous invention calculators and I'm pretty sure it's logically correct. If not, by all means correct me.

Here are my steps:

1. Get the total cost of doing an invention job - Datacores, Decyptors, Fees, Meta Items, BPC cost - Call this A
2. Get the invention chance from skills and decryptor - Call this B
3. Get the number of invented runs will be on the BPC after including T1 BPC runs and decryptor - Call this C
4. Calculate the average cost for a success: Call this D = 1 / B. So if you have 53% chance of success, you will likely need 2 invention tries to get a success. So I normalize this for how much does it cost, approximately, to get a successful bp
5. Calculate the cost per success: Call this E = D * A
6. Calculate the total invention cost per run: IC = E / C

Now I take the invention cost and multiply it by the number of runs you have entered.

So for the data you provided, the total cost of an invention run is 9.3mil. Given the costs you give, that looks like about 53% invention success rate. So you would probably need to do more than one run for success, which gives an invention cost just under double the total mat cost for one invention run.

Hope that helps. Again, let me know if my math and/or logic is off. From my copy I'm running, all the numbers look fine.

No support if your behind a Proxy which is a bit lame

Hi all,

I would like to use the soft but I'm encountering odd behavior when I update the manufacturing part.
The thing after having imported the prices, I unchecked (into the manufacturing part this time), the Tech 2 and tech 3 abilities and click on Preview Item List and after that on Calculate.
I get all the column SVR empty.

I think I did not miss a thing when creating my API key (I checked all the radio button), so if you have an idea about why I'm not able to update my SVR column, I would be pleased to hear about that :).

Thanks.

Im sure you've got enough things to keep you busy for quite a while, but thought i might mention another feature request, its a big one, so really just mentioning as perhaps a long term goal.

Currently the shopping list contains the total total amount of materials used to manufacture whatever stuff your planning to build.

It would be useful if the shopping list had a list of materials you dont have, so take the list of materials required to make the products, subtract the materials you already have, and show that as well.

I expect it would be major feature because you would need to pull inventory data from eveapi and manage that data, it would probably make sense to add an "inventory viewer" as well, so yea, a big one i assume.

EDIT: Oh, and the total volume of stuff in shopping list would be good to, so you know if it will fit in your ship, or what ship to fly ;)

Thanks

Sorry if this is already answered some where but I notice there is a place for corp blueprints. is there a way for it to auto grab this information? for all the corp blueprints available?

First, I'm new at this industry stuff.

I'm having trouble figuring out how your program is calculating isk per hour for reactions.

So I update the prices for Jita. I have an alt in there. I write down the prices. They don't match from the program but they're pretty close. Figure it's lag regarding the market uploader thing.

I flip over to the reactions tab. I select advanced. I say to build basic compounds for components. I assume this means I plan to buy the raw materials, react them into processed materials, and react those into components.

It says I can make approx 10mil per hour if I make nano transmitters so I do the math.

NT take 100 each of sulferic acid, platinum technium or whatever, and neo merchurium or whatever. It makes 1500 NT.

Each of these takes 100 of a raw material and makes 200.

I add up the cost of one unit of each raw material I need to make all the above. It adds up to approx 150k.

Since I get 2 per 1 and for each one of those I get 15, I figure 1 of each raw mat = 30 NT. (1 => 2. 1 of 2 => 15. 1 = = > 30)
My real cost divided by 30 is approx 5k. NT cost approx 6k. Thus I make 1k for each unit I produce.

Multiply this by 3000 (to get the absolute max out of my mats) I get more like 3mil per hour, way below 10mil. Where did I go wrong? How many complex reactors does it assume you are running? 2 seems like a lot already. Is there some way to make them produce more?

The API you enter doesn't affect SVR data.

I get data from these locations for these purposes:

• EVE API - Skills, Standings, Assets and Industry Jobs
• EVE Central - Price data in the Update Prices Tab
• EVE Marketeer - Average sales data for SVR

Right now the EVE Marketeer is having an issue so your updates will be spotty. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I've made a small change that will improve the data returned and should help a little but I won't be able to do much else until the problem is fixed from EVE Marketeer.

First, I'm new at this industry stuff.

I'm having trouble figuring out how your program is calculating isk per hour for reactions.

So I update the prices for Jita. I have an alt in there. I write down the prices. They don't match from the program but they're pretty close. Figure it's lag regarding the market uploader thing.

I flip over to the reactions tab. I select advanced. I say to build basic compounds for components. I assume this means I plan to buy the raw materials, react them into processed materials, and react those into components.

It says I can make approx 10mil per hour if I make nano transmitters so I do the math.

NT take 100 each of sulferic acid, platinum technium or whatever, and neo merchurium or whatever. It makes 1500 NT.

Each of these takes 100 of a raw material and makes 200.

I add up the cost of one unit of each raw material I need to make all the above. It adds up to approx 150k.

Since I get 2 per 1 and for each one of those I get 15, I figure 1 of each raw mat = 30 NT. (1 => 2. 1 of 2 => 15. 1 = = > 30)
My real cost divided by 30 is approx 5k. NT cost approx 6k. Thus I make 1k for each unit I produce.

Multiply this by 3000 (to get the absolute max out of my mats) I get more like 3mil per hour, way below 10mil. Where did I go wrong? How many complex reactors does it assume you are running? 2 seems like a lot already. Is there some way to make them produce more?

Yes. I only change the number for significant updates but I always rebuild the install and binary files when I commit any minor build changes.

Thanks for bringing this up, I did find an error and made the update. Let me know if this looks correct.

Patch notes:

Build 2.0.4424.13591

• Reactions that built Basic Compounds for Advanced Moon Materials and Complex Biochemical Reactions were incorrectly calculating IPH resulting in a much higher than normal value. This has been fixed.
• Users can now enter in the number of POSs they are using for reactions. This value multipled by the fuel cost will now be the total cost of running the reactions.
• Clicking on a Reaction will now show a list of the materials used to make the final item with options selected and the quantity used.

Is that perhaps why I the autoupdater isn't running on Vista machines? (Also it wants me to uninstall everything and do a reinstall to manually update to the current version, I'm not adverse to doing this but don't want to have to reenter all my BP data).

I'm not sure why the updater won't run on Vista. Are you talking about upgrading from version 1.3 to 2.0? If so, that is correct. You'll need to uninstall the old version and install the new. I switched Database versions so people wouldn't have to install another file just to run it, plus I couldn't get it to work with 64 bit office users.

I understand you'll lose your BPs entered but there isn't a work around for that. Sorry. I'm adding some functionality to 2.0 that will allow backups of BPs and the ability to import them from csv files, etc so this won't be an issue in the future.

If you don't want to uninstall the old version, download the binary files and just run it from a separate folder.

Gah
Forum ate my post

Short version, advanced reactions with the "build basic.." checkbox ticked still doesn't work because it's calculating the profit based on two complex reactors running (twice the output material). It creates really misleading ISK / hr figures when you factor in POS fuel.

edit: the specific reaction I was looking at was Ferrogel

Also, a suggestion:
It would be convenient if we could see and edit the prices of items in the reactions tab, without having to go to the "update prices" tab every time

Nope this is upgrading from one version 2.x to another version of 2.x. I finally bit the bullet last night an uninstalled.

OK that's an issue. I'll do some research on vista. Not having issues with Win 7 and XP. Does it give a specific error or just "can't update?"

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On the total volume of stuff in Shopping List, it should be there now. Is it not working? I've been relying on this number for some time.

OK that's an issue. I'll do some research on vista. Not having issues with Win 7 and XP. Does it give a specific error or just "can't update?"

OK that's an issue. I'll do some research on vista. Not having issues with Win 7 and XP. Does it give a specific error or just "can't update?"

It's a nice programme but these problems make it useless to those who want to manufacture EMP L, Trauma and actually think the update price function works.

Go to Edit, Manage Blueprints. In there you will find a button to Scan for Corp Assets. You will need a corp key input into the program that has access to Assets.

Let me know if you have any issues.

I haven't read the entire thread but here are my observations:

- Mineral prices aren't correct as they are undervalued by several ISK.
- Some BP's aren't in the database e.g. Trauma Heavy, EMP S & L
- Under Bluepring, Type Selection Heavy Missiles doesn't exist

It's a nice programme but these problems make it useless to those who want to manufacture EMP L, Trauma and actually think the update price function works.

I haven't gone through the entire BP list but it's interesting these are missing.

Where do you get this corp key?

I was having problems upgrading under Win 7, i forget the error description, but i just went to check, this time it downloaded and installed the update and its stuck at the opening graphic showing program name and version. (ill reinstall)

You might find it useful to add a minor version number for bugfixes, so 2.0.x, that way people can tell you more precisely what version they are reporting bugs in.

EDIT: It became unstuck, it gave an error message "unable to update character data", so not really a bug.

EDIT2: 2nd time starting it up and after it froze, it crashed, this wont be much use though.

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It gives an error that says something like this program already exists (something about uninstall). To make things even stranger the most recent version of EPH does not generate the error (I went from version 2.0 to the new one).

• The mineral prices are from eve central. You can also set them manually. There is more flexibility in EVE IPH for updating prices than many other industry tools so I don't necessarily agree with you on that.
• I see Trauma heavy, EMP, etc in the list. If you don't see them, please link a screenshot.
• Type selection for heavy missiles isn't on the blueprint screen but is on the blueprint management and manufacturing tab. Both have Heavy Missiles listed. Again, link a screenshot if you can't find them.

Finally, make sure you are using version 2.0.4424.13591. Version 1.3 is no longer supported.

Thanks

wallenbergaren, thanks for the numbers. I'll go over them tomorrow night and double check it, then get back to you.

Better way to check.
Ferrogel reaction uses these base materials:
Dysprosium
Hafnium
Chromium
Platinum
Promethium
Vanadium
Cadmium

Set all their prices to zero.
Set POS fuel price to zero.

Set Ferrogel price to 1 ISK.
IPH says the profitability is 800 ISK / HR (if you un-tick taxes and fees), that is 800 units produced per hour. That requires TWO complex reactors running.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are problems with the other complex reactions when you set it to calculate a full reaction chain, since someone else already reported a problem with a different one.

The shopping list behavior seems to have changed. It no longer provides a list of all components and raw materials. Add adding items to the shopping list seems to only add components for me not raw materials. And copying the list gives you only the components.

The previous function of getting raw materials totals, component totals, and final item totals was very useful to me.

Yes it has. Sorry about that. I'll get a fix up probably tomorrow.

Has anyone else experienced the app not accepting their API key?

Does IPH list m3 of output anywhere? Trying to figure out how much hauling some of these scenarios would involve.

ME levels do not seem to be effecting the build requirements for POS components. A Silo at ME 0 and at ME 100 still takes 50,000 trit.

Hello Zifrian,

As you already know, I use your very nice tool at work and at home.

I have updated my owned BPO's at work.
I would like to know if I can, with a simple/copy paste of a "data file" (or maybe the whole directory), update IPH at home.
It will save me a lot of time if it is possible...

Thank you.

Regards,
Director Producer

Shinnyyyyyy tooool ...

I guess i will share my first quarterly profit with you.


Are there any plans for planetary reaction profit calculation?

You should be able to. I haven't updated the structure of the database since release. Not saying it will work every time but an alternative you could do is keep the program folder and all the contents on a zip drive to take home from work if possible. It all runs in the same folder now.

trying to update to the latest version using the version 2.0.4411.33303

i get this message

"unable to download updates at this time. Please try again later
Error: file not found"

First off, thank you so much for this tool! I, too, have been frustrated to try to find a way to sort through which of the decent items to manufacture will actually be likely to sell. Sure SVR has its limits, but I find it to be a helpful reference to consider if the supposed massive isk/hour is worth the risk of the price changing quite a bit before I get the darned thing sold. I have not done manufacturing in a looong time because I lost interest in all the data I had to pour over, but this tool looks fun and it is encouraging me to give it another try sometime (on an alt )

As a hobbyist bug squasher I wanted to bring a few things to your attention. I want to add a small disclaimer that for now I have only tried this on one computer, a slower beast running Windows XP, so some of the issues might be just because of my computer.

1) Tooltips, Only on Some Things? - On the manufacturing list tab, I can mouseover things like the various probability multipliers (to get a list of the names of the various items for each race and the stats for that item) or Profit %, SVR, and SVR*IPH for a brief description of what that means. However, many items do not seem to have a mouseover tool tip, such as IPH and Profit under Sort By and any of the 4 options under Price Comparison. I'm guessing that you have just implemented tooltips for items that you thought needed some sort of explanation. Are these other tooltips there and just not showing up for me? Perhaps this is more of a 'feature request' than a 'bug' but since there is no manual (that I know of) for EVEIPH, more tool tips would be appreciated .

2) Faction POSes, Same Fuel Cost - when clicking the "Edit POS" button in the Manufacturing List tab, I see where you can set various types of POSes but I noticed that when changing from a Caldari Small Tower to a Guristas Small Tower the fuel costs don't change. My understanding is that CCP finally settled on making the faction towers use less fuel - 10% less for 'tier 1' towers and 20% less for 'tier 2' towers. To be fair, I have not actually messed with faction towers since the fuel block switch over so maybe CCP again changed their minds on that one, but if that is the case, it looks like the fuel block consumption numbers for faction towers are incorrect.

3) Build Block Price Doesn't Vary - When I select Standard Towers and check the 4 races, I see that the "Buy" costs vary for Fuel Blocks but the "Build" costs seems to stay the same (at the moment it is 12748.60.) With no other costs considered except the raw materials, using the Blueprint tab I figure these are the current prices per block assuming ME 100: Amarr 12192.20, Caldari 12748.60, Gallente 12750.25, Minmatar 13970.80. When I check the Update Prices tab for ice products, sure enough, the different isotopes have different prices. This seems to suggest that there is an issue with how the "Set POS Settings" thing calculates Build costs for Fuel Blocks. Apparently it is only using the Caldari isotope (Nitrogen) for all the fuel blocks? Also, a side question - what ME is this basing the Build Price off of? Changing the "ME and PE for Unowned BPs doesn't seem to change the Build Price from 12748.60. Is it using perfect ME?

4) Meta 2-4 Items Showing with T1 and T2 Only Checked - On the Manufacturing List tab, when I check Modules and Tech 1 and Tech 2 (but no other items) I end up with things like Dual Modal Giga Pulse Laser I and Capital Coaxial Regenerative Projector I in my lists. Similarly, items like Gaze Survey Probe 1 and Discovery Survey Probe I show up with Tech 1, Tech 2, and Ammo/Charges checked. So far as I know, the BPOs for these items are not offered and they are not produced through invention. I honestly don't know much about where the blueprints for these items come from (because they have info in the Blueprints tab, so there must be a blueprint somehow) but I'd rather not have them cluttering up my search if they aren't something I can reasonably lay hands on. If I'm just derping here and the BPOs are available or BPCs for these are made through invention, just tell me, but if not, would you mind perhaps making a different sort of checkbox for these (like with Storyline and Faction) since they are not truly "T1" as they are listed as (in the sense that I can't just buy a BPO for them)?

Are you still getting this error? This looks like a blip with Source Forge and not necessarily IPH. When you run the update, when does the error come up? When the main program is open or when it is closed and the updater runs?

Thanks

Some math still seems incorrect, for example when using "compare components" it doesnt take all the time in its calculations. Earning 19m when the copying alone takes 3-4 days does not end up being over 1m per hour.

EDIT: This only seems to be the case with T2 mining crystals but perhaps more.

Is there any way to add items that are missing manually? There's some materials that are needed for storyline production missing, like Guristas Graviton Hardening , Guristas Gravity Focuser , etc.

One word of caution.

After installing this app I started having issues with my PC:

- Product advertisements coming through my headset even when browsers were not running
- Browsers opening on their own and going to particular pages
- Constant action on my HDD

The issue was identified as being Trojan n10JO5.com & N10JO5~1.com and promptly removed.

Please note that I have two PCs at home, with exactly the same anti-virus and visit the same websites on both. The issue occurred only on the PC this app was installed on.

I CANNOT say that this app was the reason for the issues I was having, but please be aware and let me have your feedback if you'd like.

One word of caution.

After installing this app I started having issues with my PC:

- Product advertisements coming through my headset even when browsers were not running
- Browsers opening on their own and going to particular pages
- Constant action on my HDD

The issue was identified as being Trojan n10JO5.com & N10JO5~1.com and promptly removed.

Please note that I have two PCs at home, with exactly the same anti-virus and visit the same websites on both. The issue occurred only on the PC this app was installed on.

I CANNOT say that this app was the reason for the issues I was having, but please be aware and let me have your feedback if you'd like.

I found a bug with the production time in the Blueprint field:
When telling the program to use multiple lines and multiple Blueprints the production time and some other values are pretty wrong. Telling the program to use 5 Lines should either multiply all earnings by 5 or decrease the production time by the factor 5 but the reduction in time is approx 1/6 which is wrong. Take a look into that section.

But thanks for the program, it is really awesome :)

New to indy and this program, but I'm curious if there's a way of getting rid of certain items in the MFG list.

For example, I don't want any capital stuff: quad 3500mm seige artillery, for example. If I could get a list that's a lot more trim it would clear up some clutter for me while I'm looking for items that a newb can mfg. :)

Also just a quick question here, but could I build that item at a normal high sec station or do I need a POS with some capital arrays or something for that?

edit: Also, what's up with BPC packages on contracts? I can't seem to (often) find single BPC in the contract market and that would be really helpful. Is it just a matter of crappy UI and contract slot limitation issues from ccp? I just hate seeing package of like 40 BPC when I only want one of those. :(

Would it be possible to set Broker Relations, Accounting, faction and corp standing separate from my characters skills? That would help in determining IPH when you have an industrial character and a market alt.

Integrity Response Drones - a component in POS construction are not showing a value.

-edit, when you select download everything but have no region or station checked the program pulls info from -somewhere-. When it does so Integrity response drones do not pull a price. Where ever somewhere is, it has a very nice market.

Components seem to not be flowing through properly on the manufacturing spreadsheet. This was spotted by:
Set to show only moon harvesting arrays (use one cap construction part each)
1. Type in 100ME/20PE in the assume BPO filter - note price
2. Now go to the manage blueprint tab and add a BPC for capital construction components with a 100ME/20PE.

Recompute and note that the isk per hour rises.

Hey, when calculating IPH for T2 items, does IPH mean ISK per hour of manufacturing hour, or does it take time to copy and invent into account.

The bottleneck for T2 production could be either Copy, Invention or Production slots. It depends on what is begin built, available skills and POS layout.

Perhaps there could be a way to specify what type of slot is your bottleneck for T2 items.


Thanks

When copying data out of the data core table using the Copy Selected to Clipboard it pastes all data as a single line versus one line per item selected. i.e. if I select 4 items i want to paste 4 separate lines not 1 really long one.

I'm also having an issue with prices not updating across the board nor is it saving my Default system between shutting down and restarting the program.

In keeping with the bottleneck discussion, I have enabled invention time (disabled copy time) and am looking at the Harpy, which is bottlenecked by invention time (25h x 2.76 attempts/success = roughly 69 hours per successful invention at 1.0x). Showing a component profit of 7M, that works out to about 101k per hour profit.

the bp isk per hour shows 396k (makes sense if you ignore invention time)

the raw isk per hour shows 153k (no idea where this one comes from)

1)In what way is the program factoring in invention time into the calculations if you turn it on?

2) How is "total item production time" calculated? It shows 1day 23h 46mins for the harpy but not sure where that number is coming from.

Thanks.

Hey, when calculating IPH for T2 items, does IPH mean ISK per hour of manufacturing hour, or does it take time to copy and invent into account.

The bottleneck for T2 production could be either Copy, Invention or Production slots. It depends on what is begin built, available skills and POS layout.

Perhaps there could be a way to specify what type of slot is your bottleneck for T2 items.

Thanks

When copying data out of the data core table using the Copy Selected to Clipboard it pastes all data as a single line versus one line per item selected. i.e. if I select 4 items i want to paste 4 separate lines not 1 really long one.

I'm also having an issue with prices not updating across the board nor is it saving my Default system between shutting down and restarting the program.

In keeping with the bottleneck discussion, I have enabled invention time (disabled copy time) and am looking at the Harpy, which is bottlenecked by invention time (25h x 2.76 attempts/success = roughly 69 hours per successful invention at 1.0x). Showing a component profit of 7M, that works out to about 101k per hour profit.

the bp isk per hour shows 396k (makes sense if you ignore invention time)

the raw isk per hour shows 153k (no idea where this one comes from)

1)In what way is the program factoring in invention time into the calculations if you turn it on?

2) How is "total item production time" calculated? It shows 1day 23h 46mins for the harpy but not sure where that number is coming from.

Thanks.

This is a really nice tool, thank you for the hard work put in to building and maintaining it!

I noticed a few small things as I was using the app.

When in the blueprint management screen updating me/pe values, when you have the unfiltered list everything defaults to not being checked. When you select a type filter, every time you update an me/pe value everything defaults to checked and you need to uncheck all every time before entering the next set of me/pe values. It would be handy to have them both default to not checked, when entering data for hundreds of bps with very different me/pe values it would make the process a bit quicker.

It would be really nice to be able to update me/pe values from the blueprints tab anywhere an me/pe value appears. So for example under the blueprint icon, as well as the bottom left portion for the component material list (for items that have sub components like t2 and capitals).

A way to back up the me/pe values (or even the whole database) to a separate backup file would be great.

There is no way to set the default production time multiplier in the manufacturing list, this would be good in case you do production at POS for example.

Would be nice if you could save your shopping list from session to session. If we could have several shopping lists that would be heavensend.

If we could also bookmark certain blueprints that would be great too.

You definitely broke something with this patch, everything on the manufacturing list comes up as 0 IPH no matter what options i choose.
The market data is imported so its not that.

Hello,

I am learning your tool, so far its great but am having a few issues or questions.

I am trying to use the manufacturing tab to figure out what to manufacture and am using the iph*svr or iph settings, with ignore low svr turned on and it keeps recommending things that seem like a nice profit at first but when you check the volume of the item on the marketplace it is recommending items to that have a very very low volume in sales. Granted i may make that isk for making and selling them but donGÇÖt want to wait 2 months to sell 1 item.

I thought the svr setting along with ignore low svr was supposed to filter low volume items out but doesnGÇÖt seem to make a difference, at least for me. Is there something i am doing wrong or am i just misunderstanding what the setting does.

Some examples of what it recommends to me, all of them donGÇÖt seem to sell very well:
Large tracking diagnostic subroutines II
Large Salvage Tackle II
Small Drone Scope Chip II
Large Auxiliary thrusters II


2) Why does the isk per hour and total profit not match between the Manufacturing and blueprint screens, even if you set the me/pe/decryptor etc, to be the same? Which one should i be looking at to estimate potential profit.

Thanks for your help and your very nice application.

Oh i also have an idea for a option in the manufacturing list screen. It is that in the invention decryptors area adding an option to only display the most profitable of the decryptor options you have checked when you calculate the list.

The problem with the low SVR filter is that its set to 1, that means you can fill the market by yourself and that shows how weak that market truly is. A good SVR filter would be at something like 10 at least.

Also if you add Quality Firsts suggestion do it to meta items too =)

Edit: there was another patch and now it works fine.

Part 2


I look at mine the are all different, dont see any that match.. thats why i think i have something messed up

Pictures are worth alot of typing here so:
I am using the first line for the covert ops cloak and the highlighted medium capacitor control circuit as my examples, although in my case it doesnt matter what item i pick.

The manufacturing screen

Covert ops cloak BP

Med capacitor control BP

I think your problem is with number of runs.

I'm not positive but I believe the Mfg tab selects a max run BPC + amount of runs invention would give to calculate numbers. SO in the BP tab, you need to change "Copies" (Under the Invention portion) to the max runs, and then change "runs" to the amount of runs the invention will give on the BPC. The numbers should then be much closer/matching.

Zar

Awesome program. Only thing I would suggest in teh mining section is a feature to allow multiple ships since a lot of people mine with multiple hulks I know you can just multiply the isk by number of ships its just a suggestion. Also I cant find where you can put rorq in deployed mode as boosts in this mode are a lot higher. Unless this mode is the default and Im not realizing it.

Is there a feature in this to show reprocessing yields? Maybe another app has this?

I was thinking of adding multiple ships and I might but want to allow for multiple ship setups first. I'll add it to my list.

Rorq boost is default deployed mode.

No reprocessing yields yet but going to add something in the near future.

Also I just noticed it looks like the mining laser bonus is coming from a t1 gang link and not the new t2. I say this cause a maxed orca with mindlink in IPH brings cycle time down to 133 sec while ingame my maxed orca with mindlink brings cycle time down to 120ish. And I didnt see the t2 mining lazors in the list unless i missed them.

Eeh the Trauma missiles seems to have reverted back into Scourge missiles, fix this.

Saw now that its the same thing in EVEMon, wtf?

CCP will release an updated db on March 28th. I'll get the update up then. Wonder if it's just better to put up the last one until then.

Eeh the Trauma missiles seems to have reverted back into Scourge missiles, could you please fix your free app when you have some time, thanks

Saw now that its the same thing in EVEMon, wtf?

CCP will release an updated db on March 28th. I'll get the update up then. Wonder if it's just better to put up the last one until then.

I was looking at modules, and it does not appear that selecting .65 multiplier for using the rapid assembly array is calculating the extra material costs... its a 1.2x multiplier for materials where the equipment array and npc station is 1.0.

Great tool

I noticed a bug with the "Blueprints" tab
Open up the Rokh, enter 1 run on 1 line, says it takes 4h. Now change it to 10 runs, click refresh, 1d 16h, appears correct. Now we change it to 9 lines, how long should it take? 8h, because the first 4h we produce 9 units, and the next cycle we use the last unit and 8 lines are unused. However when we click refresh it still says 1d 16h, and if we change it to just 1 line the time persists(which it should) which suggests something is not working as it should

Quick questions

• Anyway to increase the "Runs" attribute (currently limited to 999999)


• Anyway to specify the "Num lines" attribute manually? So we can enter the lines available for all our alts or corp


• Material volume at the bottom would be nice (perhaps item volume at the top aswell...)


• Will we see a new tab that handles reprocessing?

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I need to ask, when i fx get 300k isk per hour according to your program, is that per invention slot?

For example i calcuate that i earn 60mill a day with one module, and using your program i suddenly only make 34 mill.

Just to clarify, ive been inventing for years, i know how much i make. Also RAM tech shouldnt cost the full price when something i build only require 0.15 x ram tech.

Hello Zifrian,

I encoutered an error when copying my Shopping List !



It crashes everytime I try to copy.
If you need any other information, feel free to ask

Wonderful tool, I've not tried all the parts yet but unless I've missed something I do not think you can include drones in the mining calculator. You could either add that feature or just add a "additional m3/min mined" field.

i'm still getting the hang of your program but while i was playing with it i ran into this problem

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Addon: Also for a suggestion is there any way you can make it so certain prices aren't change when get prices for a region or make it easier to compare prices

I keep getting a corrupt download error when doing the update. The popup dosent give me much else unless there is a log somewhere..

Heres the error I got

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Operating System: Windows 7 Professional x64
Screen or Tab where Error Occurred: During the update, when the database file finished downloading
Steps to reproduce the Error: run update.. repeatable.

OK, I'm working to see if I can get this fixed. These types of errors are always annoying to find and get corrected. I'll see if I can get a fix up sometime tomorrow.