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zombu2
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 15:16:18 heh fast forward huh you might wanna get your stuff straight sm3 is out since years many games only support sm3 what do you want? take you r 10 year old junk and play cs or doom and quit bothering us here
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LordRyan77
Gallente Ooops Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:22:00 -
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CCP is clearily doing something wrong! EVE is the greatest game ever! Still I don't know one person(rl) who plays EVE. I know dozens of people who play WOW. Why the hell would anyone want to be troll, and play a game with a bunch punkass kids?
For those people with comments like: I'm tired of you whiners complaining about how am i gonna run my 5 accounts on 4 ancient machines.
Heres the thing with that, I bought my second machine used because it could run EVE. I signed up for 4 account because both my premium and my crappy machine could both run EVE.
There was no risk in buying used machines and multuple accounts because I could always fall back on classic(I hate classic).
Last remark: Where the hell is my dual screen support, so i can throqw out that piece of crap and run all 4 of my accounts on a premium PC. LordRyan77 |
zombu2
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:27:00 -
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i don t know where your dual screen support is but i don t have a problem running 2 premium clients graphics on full blast and still get 83 fps per client and that on an old 7950 |
Jach Wong
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:33:00 -
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To all those pointing out $50 video card upgrades:
Most laptops don't have upgradable video cards.
I have a 2007/2008 laptop that doesn't support SM3; it wasn't a low end laptop when I got it, it just wasn't a portable gaming machine. Sure, I have a tower at home with upgradable hardware, but I'm almost never home because I have a job. I play this game because it's fairly AFK friendly and because it's one of the few that runs on a Thinkpad, and I'm fairly confident from responses in this thread that I'm not alone.
To CCP: please consider the following.
If you abstract your rendering engine from the core game logic and networking, you can with relative ease develop one client with multiple rendering engines. Maintenance or the rendering engines could be fairly minimal, and as a side benefit you'd end up with a more manageable code base. If I've underestimated you, and you've already separated these segments of code, then there's really no good reason why you can't throw together an "Asteroids"-esque rendering engine and keep all your SM1 and SM2 users (it really doesn't need to be fancy or pretty). |
LordRyan77
Gallente Ooops Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: LordRyan77 on 16/01/2009 15:34:56 Edited by: LordRyan77 on 16/01/2009 15:34:27
Originally by: zombu2 i don t know where your dual screen support is but i don t have a problem running 2 premium clients graphics on full blast and still get 83 fps per client and that on an old 7950
My main is a 2 year old HP media center($3,000) no problem running 4 on preium. The 2nd PC is I don't have to shift between clients on mission. Dual screen support would remove that need. Mine
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LordRyan77
Gallente Ooops Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:38:00 -
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$429
$475
maybe I'll replace my 2nd PC with one of these. LordRyan77 |
Marcus Arelios
Caldari Global Sheep Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Doublewhopper
Originally by: Marcus Arelios Edited by: Marcus Arelios on 15/01/2009 22:05:23 Newegg: Can get a SM3 video card for $20, barely higher than one month of EVE.
You can't expect CCP to keep paying and wasting time maintaining software that is outdated while the rest of the world keeps advancing. Can you think of any other game company in the world that is maintaining SM1 software? Not likely. Let alone one that is maintaining two versions of the same game for that hardware.
You, my friend, tell me that you have never heard about the game they call World of Warcraft?
World of Warcraft still keeps to its very first system requirements while also being able to be tuned up with features on the newest hardware. And i don't like it to play a game technical inferior to WoW because it is unable to run like it used to be. Might aswell play WoW on my belowed SM1 machines then...
Wow is a failure of a game in my opinion. As a business tactic it worked beautiful, but as a game? Its too much like a job. There are only two reasons its still successful, 1) Tons of kids play it that don't know any better, 2) The people that have dedicated too much time and are now hooked/addicted to it.
One of the reasons I liked EVE/CCP is because they were smart enough to design their game in a manner where they could update the graphics engine with a complete overhaul. Not too many games have done that. WoW needs it, but it won't happen because Blizzard doesn't really care that much about WoW, its all business for them. As long as people pay, who cares. Even their expansions are designed around keeping people playing, not really adding something useful. CCP does care about their game and is trying to make the necessary changes for improvement for all our benefit. |
Zostera
Minmatar SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Zostera on 16/01/2009 16:02:42 I run an FX5700 card using classic client.
If you do indeed remove support for this card in the winter expansion, it is highly unlikely that I will be able to upgrade due to financial considerations.
The limit on finances is due to disability, and finding the money each month simply to pay a subscription is tough. If further costs are required I won't have a choice.
I am now wondering whether continuing to pay subs to even play until Winter expansion is simply going to be a waste of money.
As I said, I am speaking for myself, but I am sure there are others out there who would find it equally hard to upgrade. Please don't force us out of a game we enjoy. |
Pichonsita
Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:05:00 -
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i just want to play the game, i dont need grafics to play, classic grafics are still beatifull background and ships. If u put premium little is gona be great, all can support sm2 (at last most of them)
if this change of sm3 only happens i will cancel my subscription, and i use only 1 char, dont flame about the multiaccount thing.
dont make a mistake ccp, u gona screw it up this time if u allow only sm3 in a couple of months. |
Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 16/01/2009 16:12:22 Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 16/01/2009 16:11:08
Originally by: Straight Chillen This seems like a very WoW~ish line of thinking to mee.
I did have to laugh at this - clearly you've been *****ing about WoW so long that you blame it for all ills regardless of facts. The graphics are childish, and the system requirements don't even require Shader Model 1. A recommended setup includes Shader Model 1.
Originally by: Ruoska given the unreliability of the premium client.
Those commenting that the premium client is unreliable - I am genuinely intrigued, and I'd imagine those at CCP are too - how is it unreliable? I've been playing on the premium client since it came out and had very little trouble - on two separate PCs with different Windows operating systems, and two different Nvidia cards. I think I had a brief period of crashes when CCP screwed up a patch and fixed it a few days later. That was it for me. Just curious to know more about others' experiences.
Originally by: Shade Millith I would also like to know why a "no-graphics" option hasn't been made, for large fleets?
Because a black screen makes for quite a difficult user experience. More seriously, the quality of the graphics strictly has no relation to what shader model is the bare minimum, except upwards (i.e. better graphics can need higher versions).
An option that keeps everyone as boxes (stations, gates, ships), low detail objects, or icons and so on sounds theoretically possible, aside from little quirks like collision detection happening on the server and thus the movement/clipping of your objects on-screen would bear no resemblance to what they are actually colliding with.
Of course, a good client will degrade graphics quality gracefully as FPS drops like a stone, and thus you wouldn't need the notion of separate clients at all...
Originally by: Sky Marshal
Originally by: Gebher'el As for laptop users, if you are running Intel graphics what are you thinking. That level of laptop was NEVER considered a gaming machine.
There was a day than the same words was applied to... personal computers. PC [were] not meaning to play games. Buy a console ! They are less expensive and more powerful (Megadrive, Playstation, etc...). This changed. PC are no more considered only as a workstation for companies, but also as a good game system.
Computer games pre-date consoles. The Amiga, the BBC Master, the PC, the Atari, they all had good games on them before the current console breed came out (although since some of the above plugged into a TV, I suppose you could argue they were precursor consoles). I still fondly recall Arcadians on the BBC - quality 8-bit graphics you could only normally find on arcade machines... How far we have come... |
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Marcus Arelios
Caldari Global Sheep Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Danae Ori Are these the only upcoming changes in system requirements?
No-one's happy to fork out extra $$$ on a game they've been happily playing for months, if not years.
If CCP removes SM 2 support, I won't quit, but I will definitely think about it. I play Eve on a laptop and these machines are a headache to upgrade. Besides, isn't Eve's niche in gameplay not graphics? Sexy games have bombed in the past... Matrix Online, SWG, Stormreach, etc. due to poor gameplay issues.
SWG failed for one reason and one reason only. SOE did not listen to their player base, EVER. They closed and locked forum posts with complaints. Then they decided to completely overhaul the game with a whole new premise completely screwing over any player that was there for more than a year. CCP has done nothing like that at all. They give us warning, they listen to us. They are listening to this post as it isn't locked/deleted yet. An EVE equivalent to what SOE did to SWG would be for the devs to post one day, next week we are eliminating capital ships. All you capital pilots? well you better start training something else now. |
Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:12:00 -
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Why did I start playing Eve?
Because it had insane beautiful graphics and really reasonable hardware requirements for that. Since then I got more and more impressed by the gameplay (little I did know when I started playing...) but still.
Is CCP now that mainstream already that they jump the bandwaggon and just throw the best available hardware at the problem to generate great graphics instead of good work? Comparing the graphics of other games, Eve is really really falling behind - sorry to say. No innovative approach used here, not to mention developed. Where are the backgrounds based on fractals? Where are the procedurally generated textures of planets? Where are the automatically generated individual storylines? Hell - even the in-game mail client is still absolutely crappy. And and and
So ... enough of that ranting
Just laughable. As soon as it is looking well for CCP (StacklessIO, Eve64 etc.) they are going berserk and shoot themselves into the foot. You can count on that, always. I wonder why.
Increasing the minimum requirements by 2 shader generations within 9 months in the time of worldwide recession/depression is beyond and serious comment. Who in their right mind would do such a thing? Who would even CONSIDER that??!
And 50 days before the biggest expansion they just mention the need for shader model 2 in a devblog which most of the people won't read? What sort of communication and community service is that?!
I can understand that CCP wants to reduce the workload on their staff and therefore want to discontiune sm1 stuff - even though they would annoy a lot of people. And really ... announcing the impossibility of playing Eve for lots of laptop players (3% is absolutely not the right number as explained in many posts already) just a few weeks prior is absolutely bad style! Hiding that fact in an obscure devblog is even worse. Such an important fact needs to be at login-screen for many days in big letters!
And to discontinue sm2? That is pure comedy - who has ever heard that a successful company forces their long term subscribers to stop playing and still stay successful? This will go ill for CCP if they really implement their considerations of discontinuing sm2.
What is better? To lose a big part of the old, loyal and most dedicated community or to slow down development by a few paces and gear down the overdrive? For me the answer is obvious. For CCP also? |
Solanio
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:23:00 -
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the more I think about it the more funnier it gets
In times of worldwide economic problems, CCP decides to increase their minimum specs by dropping SM1 / classic client, maybe even SM2 later this year. This will force alot of people to upgrade their set of hardware, if they want to continue playing the same way they do today. One group that is probably quite heavily affected by this, are people with multiple accounts because they currently run those accounts in classic mode in order to have playable performance (unless they already use one "good enough and future SM2/3 proof" PC per account).
These changes are not just about SM1/2/3, I currently can run 3 accounts in classic nicely. But it's unplayable in premium because premium simply requires more ressources.
Noone but CCP might gain from this cost saving measure (dont tell me you expect that freed up ressoucces will be allocated to other parts of EVE very quickly, those people doing the classic art might loose their job, yeah, much more likely if you know anything about how businesses are run, or watch the news).
Where it gets really funny, I can easily afford one high end Alienware desktop for each of my accounts. I had actually planned to upgrade my desktop when I return back home in April (currently working abroad, using notebook for EVE, desktop stayed at home). Use that upgraded desktop as main machine and my 2 year old high end notebook for alts. But now I am a) being forced to do atleast that or b) buy even more new hardware stuff to keep running 3 accounts on either one or different machines with some performance as today, just to see little spaceships with premium graphics, if I actually decide to fully zoom in, which is useless in terms of game mechanics anyway. Just as useless as walking in stations. This is a spaceship game, not some WoW clone in space, where people can /dance and /bow and /kiss.
Forcing people to spend extra money in order to just be able to keep playing the same game with the same performance. What a joke! |
zombu2
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:25:00 -
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ccp might loose some players but i say let them go if their unwilling to a couple bucks for upgrades
all unwilling to upgrade please go away and stop blocking eve's advancement to the greatest game ever
finally admitt your computers are crap and do something about it invest the 50 bucks to all that bought those cheapo laptops ...you knew what you where buying and you always get what you pay for next time spend a couple hundred more on a laptop
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Pichonsita
Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2 ccp might loose some players but i say let them go if their unwilling to a couple bucks for upgrades
all unwilling to upgrade please go away and stop blocking eve's advancement to the greatest game ever
finally admitt your computers are crap and do something about it invest the 50 bucks to all that bought those cheapo laptops ...you knew what you where buying and you always get what you pay for next time spend a couple hundred more on a laptop
give me the money, because i dont ahve
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Hollier
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:29:00 -
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Ok i`ve actually DOWNGRADED ny machine to sm 2.0 capable only. I just about managed to find 1 2nd user card. I logged on to sisi got the usual small update and no option to test premium LITE, why not, this close to release ?
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zombu2
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pichonsita give me the money, because i dont ahve
what about you get a job ???
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Casey Windstrom
Gallente Nanobots Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:35:00 -
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Okay, I understand that games have to move forward to 'keep up with the times', and I certainly understand that maintaining two totally seperate code bases and artwork bases can be an utter pain in the ass.... but CCP? PLEASE don't drop support for the shader 2.0 model in winter 2009, if you do drop the classic version.
Some of Eve's charm is the fact that I do not have to make my computer burst into flame to run it. I love the fact that you support older hardware, and considered it one of your greatest assets for supporting your players, not just trying to run screaming forward like the rest of the industry that thinks graphics is the best thing ever, and plot and content is secondary to bling. Bling is not what makes EVE Online great.
I might suggest putting an option into the client to let us report our graphics capabilities back to you, then you could get a good feeling for what your users are capable of, and what percentage you have using what, AND see perhaps what they're got themselves set to.. If a user can run premium, but still chooses to run classic, there's probably a damn good reason. (My roomates computer has a graphics card capable, but his disk IO sucks, so he runs classic.)
Casey Windstrom
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2 admitt your computers are crap and do something about it invest the 50 bucks
Please tell me where I can get a new laptop for $50. Thanks.
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Pichonsita
Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2
Originally by: Pichonsita give me the money, because i dont ahve
what about you get a job ???
i got a job, and i can barelly pay 38 dollars every 3 months, i got to pay bills, food, the car and all RLF stuff, i dont get enough money to put it on a computer.
and im not the only one whit this, not everyone has a premiun capable computer like u do or ahs the money to upgrade the current one.
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zombu2
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 16:42:59
Originally by: Casey Windstrom Okay, I understand that games have to move forward to 'keep up with the times', and I certainly understand that maintaining two totally seperate code bases and artwork bases can be an utter pain in the ass.... but CCP? PLEASE don't drop support for the shader 2.0 model in winter 2009, if you do drop the classic version.
Some of Eve's charm is the fact that I do not have to make my computer burst into flame to run it. I love the fact that you support older hardware, and considered it one of your greatest assets for supporting your players, not just trying to run screaming forward like the rest of the industry that thinks graphics is the best thing ever, and plot and content is secondary to bling. Bling is not what makes EVE Online great.
I might suggest putting an option into the client to let us report our graphics capabilities back to you, then you could get a good feeling for what your users are capable of, and what percentage you have using what, AND see perhaps what they're got themselves set to.. If a user can run premium, but still chooses to run classic, there's probably a damn good reason. (My roomates computer has a graphics card capable, but his disk IO sucks, so he runs classic.)
Casey Windstrom
i on t see the problem here are the specs fom the oldest pc i got and i run premium on it intel p4 2.2 1 gig ram 20 gig hdd running pio4 6200 nvidia agp 8x slot
don t tell me anything about disk io since it has no problem running the premium with hdr on med
i suggest your buddy cleans his pc from malware and other stuff that accumulated over the years or month of looking for xxx
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Pichonsita
Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2 Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 16:42:59
Originally by: Casey Windstrom Okay, I understand that games have to move forward to 'keep up with the times', and I certainly understand that maintaining two totally seperate code bases and artwork bases can be an utter pain in the ass.... but CCP? PLEASE don't drop support for the shader 2.0 model in winter 2009, if you do drop the classic version.
Some of Eve's charm is the fact that I do not have to make my computer burst into flame to run it. I love the fact that you support older hardware, and considered it one of your greatest assets for supporting your players, not just trying to run screaming forward like the rest of the industry that thinks graphics is the best thing ever, and plot and content is secondary to bling. Bling is not what makes EVE Online great.
I might suggest putting an option into the client to let us report our graphics capabilities back to you, then you could get a good feeling for what your users are capable of, and what percentage you have using what, AND see perhaps what they're got themselves set to.. If a user can run premium, but still chooses to run classic, there's probably a damn good reason. (My roomates computer has a graphics card capable, but his disk IO sucks, so he runs classic.)
Casey Windstrom
i on t see the problem here are the specs fom the oldest pc i got and i run premium on it intel p4 2.2 1 gig ram 20 gig hdd running pio4 6200 nvidia agp 8x slot
don t tell me anything about disk io since it has no problem running the premium with hdr on med
i suggest your buddy cleans his pc from malware and other stuff that accumulated over the years or month of looking for xxx
why u want less ppl in the server? play urself in premium and leave the rest alone. why u defend ccp to allow have less ppl playing and screw us?
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Casey Windstrom
Gallente Nanobots Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Casey Windstrom on 16/01/2009 16:50:26
Originally by: zombu2 Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 16:42:59 i on t see the problem here are the specs fom the oldest pc i got and i run premium on it intel p4 2.2 1 gig ram 20 gig hdd running pio4 6200 nvidia agp 8x slot
don t tell me anything about disk io since it has no problem running the premium with hdr on med
i suggest your buddy cleans his pc from malware and other stuff that accumulated over the years or month of looking for xxx
Umn, good for you? I'm glad your system has no problem. You're not running an e-machine. You apparently don't have the financial problems he has, or know his situation in the least. Good for you.
I'm merely stating a situation, as it is, for a friend. My own machine is older, and I cannot run a shader 3.0. I don't have the money to utterly upgrade my computer, either. Other people do, AWESOME for them! I'm glad. However, I love Eve because I do not need to upgrade to play an *awesome* game I enjoy the hell out of, a game I put a lot of time and effort into, that I support whole heartedly, that I've gotten at least 20 people to try out. (75% of them continue to play Eve.)
Therefor, I support what I love and enjoy. Please don't tell me it's as simple as upgrading my machine, when CCP asked for our views, what we run, and why we run it.
Casey
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zombu2
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 16:53:08
Quote: why u want less ppl in the server? play urself in premium and leave the rest alone. why u defend ccp to allow have less ppl playing and screw us?
less ppl = less lag in jita
and it won t be less ppl anyways
it is just as simple as upgrading video 40$ maybe if you have only 512 ram you can invest in a set of 2x512 easily avaiable at compusa for 9.95$ so total cost of upgrade 49.95 and everybody that can afford to play a subscription based game can afford 50 bucks
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DarkAstoria
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:57:00 -
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Please just don't take away the shader 2! Certainly I can run whatever you come up with on my desktop, but one of my favorite things about Eve was that I could casually play on my laptop. Its only a year old and only has shader 2.
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Pichonsita
Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:57:00 -
[956]
Originally by: zombu2 Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 16:53:08
Quote: why u want less ppl in the server? play urself in premium and leave the rest alone. why u defend ccp to allow have less ppl playing and screw us?
less ppl = less lag in jita
and it won t be less ppl anyways
it is just as simple as upgrading video 40$ maybe if you have only 512 ram you can invest in a set of 2x512 easily avaiable at compusa for 9.95$ so total cost of upgrade 49.95 and everybody that can afford to play a subscription based game can afford 50 bucks
what part that i cant pay that money u dont understand? not everyone has the finnancial flexibity as u do, im from a country when we got the dolar devaluated 3.5 times higher than the usual.
less ppl less lag? ua re a damm selfish man u are not looking into the topic CCP puted in u are jsut and idiot that only cares about himself.
if u gona play just fine? why u post here?
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2
finally admitt your computers are crap and do something about it invest the 50 bucks to all that bought those cheapo laptops ...you knew what you where buying and you always get what you pay for next time spend a couple hundred more on a laptop
My "cheapo" laptop was over $2000 and purchased because it was well in excess of the requirements for Eve. As of March I will no longer be able to use it to play Eve, one of the main reasons I choose that specific machine.
Just because this change is not impacting on you is no reason to belittle those who go have genuine concerns.
If getting a new laptop is such a trivial thing, you are quite welcome to buy me one.
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zombu2
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Pichonsita
Originally by: zombu2 Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 16:53:08
Quote: why u want less ppl in the server? play urself in premium and leave the rest alone. why u defend ccp to allow have less ppl playing and screw us?
less ppl = less lag in jita
and it won t be less ppl anyways
it is just as simple as upgrading video 40$ maybe if you have only 512 ram you can invest in a set of 2x512 easily avaiable at compusa for 9.95$ so total cost of upgrade 49.95 and everybody that can afford to play a subscription based game can afford 50 bucks
what part that i cant pay that money u dont understand? not everyone has the finnancial flexibity as u do, im from a country when we got the dolar devaluated 3.5 times higher than the usual.
less ppl less lag? ua re a damm selfish man u are not looking into the topic CCP puted in u are jsut and idiot that only cares about himself.
if u gona play just fine? why u post here?
i suggest you STFU and GTFO if all you can do is cussing and call ppl names at least i keep this conversation at a civilised level which obviously you can not
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Hollier
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:04:00 -
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Maybe people think i`m joking, like a lot of people who`ve posted -- I hate premium , i just want to play at the level of GFX i choose.
I have gone out and spent money on an sm 2.0 capable card DOWNGRADING my machine from sm 3.0 JUST so i can test this premium LITE !
Now CCP zulupark, Explorer or Spectrum When will i be able to do THAT !
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Pichonsita
Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP
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Posted - 2009.01.16 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2
Originally by: Pichonsita
Originally by: zombu2 Edited by: zombu2 on 16/01/2009 16:53:08
Quote: why u want less ppl in the server? play urself in premium and leave the rest alone. why u defend ccp to allow have less ppl playing and screw us?
less ppl = less lag in jita
and it won t be less ppl anyways
it is just as simple as upgrading video 40$ maybe if you have only 512 ram you can invest in a set of 2x512 easily avaiable at compusa for 9.95$ so total cost of upgrade 49.95 and everybody that can afford to play a subscription based game can afford 50 bucks
what part that i cant pay that money u dont understand? not everyone has the finnancial flexibity as u do, im from a country when we got the dolar devaluated 3.5 times higher than the usual.
less ppl less lag? ua re a damm selfish man u are not looking into the topic CCP puted in u are jsut and idiot that only cares about himself.
if u gona play just fine? why u post here?
i suggest you STFU and GTFO if all you can do is cussing and call ppl names at least i keep this conversation at a civilised level which obviously you can not
civilised would be that u put urself in other ppl place and think what ua re saying, ppl can only run clasic on laptops and home pcs. you are not looking the matter
u got 1gb ram ddr? or ddr2? if u have ddr1 u miss the point that u need to change ur mother board plus the microprocessor, not to mention some "extra" things u miss.
and for laptops, go put a nvidia 6200 in a laptop, open it and see if it fits in. ur are dumb that u cant realize that?
tell me when u think about that, or putted urself in other that cant play whit premiun, in any of ur posts?
u cant see everyone is against ur comments? i thought u had a brain |
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