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Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:48:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:What consequence do you endure by pod warping from station to Orca, reshipping, going in blowing and insta warping to safe again? Well, if thats how you think its done, why dont you scan down the POD in space and come kill me? Negative ten toons are flashy red and able to be shot at by anyone, thats the consequence deal with it If they are in a ship. Shooting the pod isn't allowed.
Shooting the pod of a guy with GCC isn't allowed.
Shooting the pod of a guy with -5 or lower sec status is.
The confusion arises because the overview changed from 'flashy red' for outlaw to solid red ala those who are GCC or have aggressed you, and then CCP decided to make it so that GCC pods were still showing as solid red for a while, making people think they were outlaws and therefore poddable. |

Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:50:00 -
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Danny Diamonds wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:And isn't this the epitome of carebearing? "I want to do all sorts of stuff but not suffer any of the consequences, in the Game Of Consequences".
How is it better than dumb miners refusing the consequences of AFK their zero tank Hulk? i'm pretty sure more people recycle alts to keep concord in belts than people recycling good gank alts the more you know Fabrication. Stop.
FFS you just make a DEDICATED ganking alt. Only FP attack you when you are -10, not concord. Its not against the rules, or very difficult at all, to evade the faction cronies. Just concord.
Any miners making alts to call concord will be reported.
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Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
119
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:51:00 -
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Oh, worth also mentioning you can shoot a pod of a guy who aggresses you and doesn't have outlaw sec status, but will go GCC and take a sec hit once he explodes. It's a weird mechanic. |

Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
131
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:54:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Wall of tears. 
Where did the bad miner touch you |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:55:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Oh, worth also mentioning you can shoot a pod of a guy who aggresses you and doesn't have outlaw sec status, but will go GCC and take a sec hit once he explodes. It's a weird mechanic.
you can legally kill pods if they're wartargets or have outlaw (-5 and below) sec status EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:57:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:-10's in a pod can be shot on sight In lowsec/nullsec.
and hisec
please stop saying things that are entirely untrue, feel free to test this on sisi
outlaw pods have been legal targets since ever EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1142
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:58:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Danny Diamonds wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:And isn't this the epitome of carebearing? "I want to do all sorts of stuff but not suffer any of the consequences, in the Game Of Consequences".
How is it better than dumb miners refusing the consequences of AFK their zero tank Hulk? i'm pretty sure more people recycle alts to keep concord in belts than people recycling good gank alts the more you know Fabrication. Stop. FFS you just make a DEDICATED ganking alt. Only FP attack you when you are -10, not concord. Its not against the rules, or very difficult at all, to evade the faction cronies. Just concord. Any miners making alts to call concord will be reported. There is nothing wrong with an alt to call concord (unless CCP has decided that calling Concord is an exploit or something).
They just can't recycle it.
Hmmm, I have an empty alt spot... |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
119
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:59:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Istyn wrote:Oh, worth also mentioning you can shoot a pod of a guy who aggresses you and doesn't have outlaw sec status, but will go GCC and take a sec hit once he explodes. It's a weird mechanic. you can legally kill pods if they're wartargets or have outlaw (-5 and below) sec status
>: Ya I said that just above that post.
only i am awesome and hit reply instead of edit like a champ derp. |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
119
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:01:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Danny Diamonds wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:And isn't this the epitome of carebearing? "I want to do all sorts of stuff but not suffer any of the consequences, in the Game Of Consequences".
How is it better than dumb miners refusing the consequences of AFK their zero tank Hulk? i'm pretty sure more people recycle alts to keep concord in belts than people recycling good gank alts the more you know Fabrication. Stop. FFS you just make a DEDICATED ganking alt. Only FP attack you when you are -10, not concord. Its not against the rules, or very difficult at all, to evade the faction cronies. Just concord. Any miners making alts to call concord will be reported. There is nothing wrong with an alt to call concord (unless CCP has decided that calling Concord is an exploit or something). They just can't recycle it. Hmmm, I have an empty alt spot...
Concord spawning is an exploit, at least according to the GMs I've spoken with. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1142
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:03:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:.............
There is nothing wrong with an alt to call concord (unless CCP has decided that calling Concord is an exploit or something). They just can't recycle it. Hmmm, I have an empty alt spot...
Concord spawning is an exploit, at least according to the GMs I've spoken with.[/quote] Aye, and others have said it wasn't.
Just another issue that the GM's haven't come to a consensus on. |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
119
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:04:00 -
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I think it depends how you do it.
Whether you're just pulling them somewhere once (like, with your ganker, waiting the 15 minutes and then ganking) or continuously keeping them floating around your barge using a guy in an ibis. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:20:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:please stop saying things that are entirely untrue, feel free to test this on sisi
I don't have any negative friends.
Richard Desturned wrote:outlaw pods have been legal targets since ever
Stop lying. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:22:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:please stop saying things that are entirely untrue, feel free to test this on sisi I don't have any negative friends. Richard Desturned wrote:outlaw pods have been legal targets since ever Stop lying.
please stop trying to spread misinformation like that
you refuse to test it and you refuse to believe that you can shoot outlaw pods
believe it or not, you can, i'm sorry that you're terribly misinformed EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1144
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:22:00 -
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Istyn wrote:I think it depends how you do it.
Whether you're just pulling them somewhere once (like, with your ganker, waiting the 15 minutes and then ganking) or continuously keeping them floating around your barge using a guy in an ibis. This is moot, since the guy with the Ibis will only be able to get Concord into the belt once every 15 minutes. Otherwise, he will pull Concord to whatever station he comes from. |

Mallak Azaria
506
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:23:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:please stop saying things that are entirely untrue, feel free to test this on sisi I don't have any friends. Richard Desturned wrote:outlaw pods have been legal targets since ever Stop lying.
Do you even play this game?
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:26:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:please stop trying to spread misinformation like that
you refuse to test it and you refuse to believe that you can shoot outlaw pods
believe it or not, you can, i'm sorry that you're terribly misinformed
You do realize that pvp outside of certain areas on SiSi isn't allowed?
Mallak Azaria wrote:Do you even play this game?
Yes. |

Mallak Azaria
506
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:28:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Do you even play this game? Yes.
I doubt it. Even day 1 trial newbies know that you can shoot outlaw pods in highsec.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1755
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:28:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I am not going to sit in a belt for 8 hours awaiting for the next Buddha to come. What for anyway? To kill a 2M ship that was mean to explode anyway and (since I don't use cheesy alts to circumvent consequences) get kill rights on me? hi you shoot it when it gets a GCC and it won't get kill rights
Am I going to pop him before he pops the other guy? Because that would be the reason to do that defense. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1144
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:30:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I am not going to sit in a belt for 8 hours awaiting for the next Buddha to come. What for anyway? To kill a 2M ship that was mean to explode anyway and (since I don't use cheesy alts to circumvent consequences) get kill rights on me? hi you shoot it when it gets a GCC and it won't get kill rights Am I going to pop him before he pops the other guy? Because that would be the reason to do that defense. If it is a dessie, yes easy.
If it is a BC or BS... not likely. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:30:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I am not going to sit in a belt for 8 hours awaiting for the next Buddha to come. What for anyway? To kill a 2M ship that was mean to explode anyway and (since I don't use cheesy alts to circumvent consequences) get kill rights on me? hi you shoot it when it gets a GCC and it won't get kill rights Am I going to pop him before he pops the other guy? Because that would be the reason to do that defense.
a catalyst has 4k ehp
figure out the rest yourself v0v EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:31:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:You do realize that pvp outside of certain areas on SiSi isn't allowed?
consensual pvp for testing purposes is allowed everywhere EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Mallak Azaria
506
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:31:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I am not going to sit in a belt for 8 hours awaiting for the next Buddha to come. What for anyway? To kill a 2M ship that was mean to explode anyway and (since I don't use cheesy alts to circumvent consequences) get kill rights on me? hi you shoot it when it gets a GCC and it won't get kill rights Am I going to pop him before he pops the other guy? Because that would be the reason to do that defense.
If you can't alpha a destroyer, you're doing something wrong.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:45:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:consensual pvp for testing purposes is allowed everywhere
So, I have to wardec my alt to test it... I'm not CEO so I can't do that.
Mallak Azaria wrote:If you can't alpha a destroyer, you're doing something wrong.
800mm Repeating Artillery II would like to have word with you. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:46:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:If you can't alpha a destroyer, you're doing something wrong.
if only we had two cheapass battlecruiser hulls that can be fit to instalock and pop catalysts with high-alpha turrets
if only EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:46:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote: So, I have to wardec my alt to test it... I'm not CEO so I can't do that.
wrong |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:47:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:consensual pvp for testing purposes is allowed everywhere So, I have to wardec my alt to test it... I'm not CEO so I can't do that. Mallak Azaria wrote:If you can't alpha a destroyer, you're doing something wrong. 800mm Repeating Artillery II would like to have word with you.
pod yourself with that alt till it's -5 (doesn't take very long)
and no you don't use autocannons, it's called artillery EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:48:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:If you can't alpha a destroyer, you're doing something wrong.
if only we had two cheapass battlecruiser hulls that can be fit to instalock and pop catalysts with high-alpha turrets if only
One. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1511
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:50:00 -
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hurricane
tornado
once again, you are wrong EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:53:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:pod yourself with that alt till it's -5 (doesn't take very long)
I get kicked out from SiSi if I do that. And it takes a long time even if I pod character with 5.0 sec status. |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
119
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:54:00 -
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CCP Masterplan wrote:So here's the rules: * You can freely kill a pod if the pilot is an outlaw (below -5 sec status) * You can't kill a pod if the pilot just has a GCC. If you try, you'll get the non-suppressible "Are you sure? CONCORD will wtfpwn you if you do this" dialog This has always been the case
Normally someone with GCC will show up as red. What changed with Escalation was that we removed a special case in the UI that suppressed this red if they had GCC AND were in a pod. Now someone with GCC will always show up as red, regardless of their ship. However you will stil get punished if you kill a GCC pod BUT only if you click 'Yes' to the CONCORD question.
I do agree this can be a little confusing, and we're looking at adjusting it a little based on feedback such as this.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1208388#post1208388 |
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