Please... I did my time in CFC leadership. During ops in regions around Venal, FCs wanted 23/7 Twitch coverage of the 6NJ and K3J undocks with local visible so they could monitor BL and 401k activity. Whether you are doing it during peacetime right now or not, doesn't matter. You do it and you abuse it just like every other game mechanic in Eve. The real question here is, why are you and the other Goon posters so vested in a change which doesn't effect you at all. What is your motive for being here. Certainly you don't have any compassion or concern for those living in wormholes - especially the farmers who stand to benefit. So what's your angle?

whoever gave you this opinion is very accurate. trust them in the future.

Strange thing, its easy only accoring to our killboard, and BU one. May be you just miss the "skill" and "hard work to get results" parts?

Please... I did my time in CFC leadership. During ops in regions around Venal, FCs wanted 23/7 Twitch coverage of the 6NJ and K3J undocks with local visible so they could monitor BL and 401k activity. Whether you are doing it during peacetime right now or not, doesn't matter. You do it and you abuse it just like every other game mechanic in Eve. The real question here is, why are you and the other Goon posters so vested in a change which doesn't effect you at all. What is your motive for being here. Certainly you don't have any compassion or concern for those living in wormholes - especially the farmers who stand to benefit. So what's your angle?

Strange thing, its easy only accoring to our killboard, and BU one. May be you just miss the "skill" and "hard work to get results" parts?

I admire your stamina tho don't get me wrong it takes dedication to do as much rolling as you do we tend to be a bit more lazy, but saying it takes skill and doing ONLY that... still seems dull to me, but to each his own :)

buy plexes right now, cash all ur assets and buy. if CCP will keep this idea of wspace carebear`s paradise plex will go far above 1b, and nanoribs below 1m.
but funny thing is that carebears will suffer anyway
Btw am i only one around here who think that goonies wh eviction is connected with this 5 years old mistake fixing?

these guys run sites at 22:00ish

nah that's an hour later than i'd like, roll it.

...comrade

We cant find decent targets to engage in our timezone despite an intensive rolling/scouting. WHs are almost dead during this time. So we just explore all the options for PVP to get kills ) And yes, to get results on constant basis it requires a bit of skill )

Maybe we don't want to just rely on npc kill stats and multiple capital alts to get all our w-space kills

Since you've never actually done a logoff trap, let me assure you that it takes a lot of rolling to find an active farming wormhole. You have no idea what you're talking about.

People doing PvE in wormholes is a problem? I'd like to hear why.

NOTE: The dilution of your ability to make money in a wormhole because others are doing it is a very poor reason.

Since you've never actually done a logoff trap, let me assure you that it takes a lot of rolling to find an active farming wormhole. You have no idea what you're talking about.

This is a good change. Intelligence gathering should be made an involved, active process wherever possible.

I'm not sure that this is going to play out well.. In fact I'm pretty sure it will just lead to a lot more system burns.
Enjoy your shinies.

We do really care about the health of this game and we rely on you guys to give us feedback on changes we are looking at making. That is why both this forum post and the one linked above were made. To get feedback. You will notice that at no point have I given a specific release date because I really want to make sure we get the required feedback and act accordingly.

anyway to call our stuff "easy thing" is not the right attitude m8. Or u wanna say that silly carebears who cant fit properly/refit/farm safier are our fault? anyway this thread is not about wh pvp tactics and pointing on one another, its about making another buff to carebears. Main idea why we against was mentioned before: do not nerf content creators in sandbox game, or may be u wanna read epic article at TMC " how i multiboxed in c6 for 3 days and now i have a titan!"

Yes, but you already know which wormholes are "active farming wormholes" through API data.

Well we would remove that but you can just go and get it from zKill or something and be about 96% accurate anyways.

this is an excellent change and long overdue. congrats ccp for getting something right ))

Btw am i only one around here who think that goonies wh eviction is connected with this 5 years old mistake fixing?

Did you just seriously compare API automation with putting physical characters in systems and doing actual scouting?

I haven't done much of anything, I was born today.

I get where you're coming from, and why you see this as negative. But at worst it's inconvenient. You can still build the same intel with watch list, it just won't be cached for you.

Actually, maybe you could?
Just alter the killmails to say "Unknown Space" instead of J###### for the system.


ofc I have no idea how deep one has to go into the Rabbit Hole of Eve code to make this happen.

No I can't. How do I make a watchlist if I don't know when they log in? What if they log in when I am asleep. I cannot watch a wormhole which could potentially just be empty 24/7, the NPC kills api tells me when they will most likely be around, so i can add them to watch list. I already do my own intel gathering, I add many people to my watchlist, I watch their POS, I GATHER INTEL, but I don't just jump into holes with poses that are active hoping people in these holes are actually active, this is folly. I intel gather when there is actually intel to gather, otherwise it's a waste of my time.