There's some goofiness going on with the forums software right now; lots of posts are getting eaten. You can see a couple of empty quotes in this thread. One happened to me about 10 minutes ago. I think the forums are posting drafts of posts instead of the actual, completed post.

I think that book you missed was "How to read (for dummies)".

My "personal isk faucet" is in no way under threat. As I said, most large groups will barely notice any differences.

The rest of your post is just a bunch of words that say nothing interesting. OFC one cannot say that a specific change will have exact effects, but we can, and will, discuss if a given change helps or hurts certain playstyles. In this case, it is quite clearly all about folks that would like less risk to their PVE in w-space. I think in general, PVE in C5/C6 w-space is already less risky than it should be, and this change reduces that risk further.

I think that book you missed was "How to read (for dummies)".

My "personal isk faucet" is in no way under threat. As I said, most large groups will barely notice any differences.

The rest of your post is just a bunch of words that say nothing interesting. OFC one cannot say that a specific change will have exact effects, but we can, and will, discuss if a given change helps or hurts certain playstyles. In this case, it is quite clearly all about folks that would like less risk to their PVE in w-space. I think in general, PVE in C5/C6 w-space is already less risky than it should be, and this change reduces that risk further.

wormhole stabilizers will solve this problem

Ideally, this will be represented by two devices on either side of the wormhole, holding it open. One of the sides will have a ring on it, to indicate the polarity of the device.

oh, come on... you guys and your goat-Z wormhole stabilizer idea? Right now, in this thread??

oh, come on... you guys and your goat-Z wormhole stabilizer idea? Right now, in this thread??

NOTHING changes for the groups that are only in Wspace to run sites. The risk is still the same, the threat for them is still the same.

Honestly, I don't understand what all the fuss is about.

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_pilot.php?id=RUSED+RM

any related like this proves you wrong, instantly

So after the "think of the children" we are down to Risk:Reward balance. If the API perfect intel doesn't exist what would you like to see as far as ingame mechanics to duplicate this?

Not having enough WH PVP experience and playing in prime time, you see just a tip of the iceberg.

Eve is Goons.

First off, what you said made no sense at all.
But I can definitely see how this change can cripple a One-Trick-Pony corp like QEX.

Firstly, I am not sure where you are seeing any change in my message. I have been pretty consistent. I am against this change because it makes it harder to kill people farming in high class wormholes. People farming in those holes are in general bad for w-space. They reduce profit for all, but mostly for lower class wormholes. They don't provide PVP content, just the rare gank.

As for a solution, I would like to see the difficulty of C5/C6 capital escalations increased. It should take 8-10 actual people paying actual attention to make 600-800 mil off a set of capital escalations. The simplest way to do this would probably be to nerf dreads against sleepers, but there are other solutions that would work. If this was done, farming would require a larger time and manpower commitment, which would require a larger vulnerable presence in the hole.

Hmm, might be fun trying to talk to the other goon troll I guess....

Firstly, I am not sure where you are seeing any change in my message. I have been pretty consistent. I am against this change because it makes it harder to kill people farming in high class wormholes. People farming in those holes are in general bad for w-space. They reduce profit for all, but mostly for lower class wormholes. They don't provide PVP content, just the rare gank.

As for a solution, I would like to see the difficulty of C5/C6 capital escalations increased. It should take 8-10 actual people paying actual attention to make 600-800 mil off a set of capital escalations. The simplest way to do this would probably be to nerf dreads against sleepers, but there are other solutions that would work. If this was done, farming would require a larger time and manpower commitment, which would require a larger vulnerable presence in the hole.

I guess what it comes down to for me is that you shouldn't be able to run C5/C6 capital escalations without having to really live in w-space. That means you should be vulnerable to the same invasions and whatnot as those of us that do put in the effort to make w-space our home.

I can see how being in a less active timezone would suck, however, looking at your killboard it would seem that you gank stuff around the clock. So how do you do it? Alarmclock or something?

Yes, we have scouts and alarm clock/sms/phone our pilots when action starts.