Nobody has a monopoly on building Hulks.

True, only a measly 70% of the price of a Hulk is from Technetium

which got nerfed

now what

which got nerfed

now what

You don't understand, do you? This is the last update CCP will *evar!* make to Eve! Game over man! Game over!!!
/sarc

Glad to see someone else gets it in regards to this being a change that is a step along a path, not the final destination.

True, only a measly 70% of the price of a Hulk is from Technetium

Step 1: Halve Concord Response time, triple the sec status penalty. (ganker nerf)

Step 2: Create the Noctis - destroying ninja income by crashing the value of salvage.

Step 3: Kill the LVL 4 Loot, while leaving 'unstealable' bounties untouched. (ninja nerf)

Step 4: Two stealth nerfs of the Orca's abilities, specifically so ninjas cannot benefit from them. (ninja nerf)

Step 5: End enforcement of alliance hopping exploits. (merc nerf)

Step 6: Remove insurance, but only for gankers, while leaving it in place for self-destruction. (ganker nerf)

Step 7: Screw up RR and aggression flags, then provide helpful popups so nobody can hurt an Incursion bear. (Skunkworks)

Step 8: Dramatically reduce the time and effort it takes to set-up or break-down a POS. (merc nerf)

Step 9: Buff Concord by preventing pirates from boarding or bailing out of ships while GCC'd. (Smodab Ongalot nerf)

Step 10: Buff Concord again, by making them appear instantly to prevent warping while GCC'd. (Herr Wilkus nerf)

Step 11: Huge increase of wardec costs, while allowing free allies and unrestrained corp-dropping to the defender. (mercs)

Step 12: Insane barge buff. (ganker nerf)

Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

Step 14: Who knows? Instant Concord death ray? Quoting some fool in FF 2012: "Pewww!"

And thats just high-sec.....I'm not even going to start a list of punitive measures taken against a certain nul-sec Alliance that will remain nameless.

Factor in statements from DEVS, on this very thread: Quotable Winners like "Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable", or "Gankers are expected to lose more than the victim..."

Its pretty clear where these steps are taking us.........

Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

I can see ninjas(thieves) getting a nerf, but how are hauler gankers affected?

I can see ninjas(thieves) getting a nerf, but how are hauler gankers affected?

Gank a hauler on a busy trade network. It leaves a yellow wreck, flagged to the now dead owner.
Scoop the wreck now, you are flagged to the previous owner. Vultures can steal the wreck, but it goes with the territory.

Post-Crimewatch:
Try to scoop the wreck, you get attacked by everyone, vultures and passerby's alike.

Profits are already far from certain due to failed gank attempts, random loot drops, loss of insurance - and vultures.
Now factor in free aggro for everyone....

Now imagine trying to loot a dead freighter.

Step 1: Halve Concord Response time, triple the sec status penalty. (ganker nerf)

Step 2: Create the Noctis - destroying ninja income by crashing the value of salvage.

Step 3: Kill the LVL 4 Loot, while leaving 'unstealable' bounties untouched. (ninja nerf)

Step 4: Two stealth nerfs of the Orca's abilities, specifically so ninjas cannot benefit from them. (ninja nerf)

Step 5: End enforcement of alliance hopping exploits. (merc nerf)

Step 6: Remove insurance, but only for gankers, while leaving it in place for self-destruction. (ganker nerf)

Step 7: Screw up RR and aggression flags, then provide helpful popups so nobody can hurt an Incursion bear. (Skunkworks)

Step 8: Dramatically reduce the time and effort it takes to set-up or break-down a POS. (merc nerf)

Step 9: Buff Concord by preventing pirates from boarding or bailing out of ships while GCC'd. (Smodab Ongalot nerf)

Step 10: Buff Concord again, by making them appear instantly to prevent warping while GCC'd. (Herr Wilkus nerf)

Step 11: Huge increase of wardec costs, while allowing free allies and unrestrained corp-dropping to the defender. (mercs)

Step 12: Insane barge buff. (ganker nerf)

Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

Step 14: Who knows? Instant Concord death ray? Quoting some fool in FF 2012: "Pewww!"

And thats just high-sec.....I'm not even going to start a list of punitive measures taken against a certain nul-sec Alliance that will remain nameless.

Factor in statements from DEVS, on this very thread: Quotable Winners like "Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable", or "Gankers are expected to lose more than the victim..."

Its pretty clear where these steps are taking us.........

Excellent point

Gank stopped by passerby:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZbW2Q92MM

Back in the day Hulk pilots did have a remedy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWUlntJ58U

Now they are just meat...

Let's try the new barge layouts out and CCP can always nerf it later. I bet there will still be plenty of ganks.

Sounds like someone needs a box of tissues as they are to stupid to adapt to the changes?

Shoe is on the other foot so to speak.

A. Men.

Seriously.

Gank a hauler on a busy trade network. It leaves a yellow wreck, flagged to the now dead owner.
Scoop the wreck now, you are flagged to the previous owner. Vultures can steal the wreck, but it goes with the territory.

Post-Crimewatch:
Try to scoop the wreck, you get attacked by everyone, vultures and passerby's alike.

Profits are already far from certain due to failed gank attempts, random loot drops, loss of insurance - and vultures.
Now factor in free aggro for everyone....

Now imagine trying to loot a dead freighter.

Skiffs have bigger tanks than black ops, discuss

So you want to freely shoot Exhumers that have no guns to shoot back with, and are upset that when you steal from a wreck that someone else can shoot you?

the problem is that in the past, hulkageddons generally involved "more expensive" ships like brutixes, discophoons, torp ravens, armageddons and domis, which were insured so the ganker would only really bear a 10-20m loss

then the nth nerf to all risk in hisec took away insurance for concord kills (since publords need to be safe while botting or being AFK) and people started using the newly buffed destroyers and tier 3 battlecruisers

and now, the n+1st nerf to all risk in hisec is vastly increasing the hitpoints on all barges

and soon, the n+2nd nerf to all risk in hisec will ensure that no freighter is worth ganking because looting it will allow everyone in the game, most of whom had no stake in either the defense or attack on that freighter, to shoot you

and the n+3rd nerf will probably equalize concord response times throughout all of hisec, so a 1.0 rookie system is no safer than a 0.5

you guys that bored cuss you won 0.0?

how about you break the circle jerk and have some fun with your "allies"