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Darkireland
Caldari
Hematite Rose
Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:23:00 -
[121]
Might be that they are doing this to roll out skill queing and dont want people abuseing the system to que up 2 30 day skills while inactive i suppose.
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DTson Gauur
Caldari
Underground-Operators
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:23:00 -
[122]
Has anyone noticed that all these changes affecting CCP's cashflow started AFTER they hired that economist... Welcome to corporate world run on quarterly reports, reap what you sow...
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Jogvan
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:23:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Jogvan on 13/10/2008 17:29:47
This change is re-tarded, and I'm sure you will lose more money then you gain (which is obviously why you do this. STOP LYING TO YOUR CUSTOMERS!). First changing so you can only buy 60d GTC's and now this. As other have said already, it will only stop people who are on break to return.
Edit: -1 account here
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Killah Bunnie
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:25:00 -
[124]
 Originally by: Triksterism
This change is most definitely dildos.
I hereby support this description 
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Deadly Hobbitses
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:25:00 -
[125]
CCP Fallout, since there seems to be a little bit of rabblerabble brewing here, could you please confirm the following suspicion...
The removal of Ghost Training paves the way for a new feature in the next expansion: Skill Training Queue
Given a skill queue would be unbalanced in favor of people who like to do all of their long skill trains without paying for them, it does make some sense, whereas a random ninja-nerf does not.
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fiber0pti
the united
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:26:00 -
[126]
CCP Failboat more like
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Dianeces
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:26:00 -
[127]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
A long overdue and much needed change will be put in place with the Wednesday, 15 October 2008 patch. Ghost Training, the continuous skill gain on accounts in an inactive or expired state - will no longer function after Wednesday, 15 October 2008. This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
We understand that this is a hot topic amongst players, and request that you discuss this necessary change without breaking the forum rules.
You, my good sir, are about as intelligent as a sack of hammers.
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Fandanguero
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:26:00 -
[128]
I hope, it for The Greater Good!
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Cali Serrano
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:27:00 -
[129]
I don't post much but this definitly deserves something. I've got 4 accounts, with one generally cycled down every 3 months or so for a long skill train (30 days+), one is down now in fact. As of now I'm thinking about canceling one of the other three and taking it down to just 2. And with the inactives no longer training the will not be reactivated. Might make on an alt of the other account .. then the accounts will definitly not come back. Balance? Sure whatever.
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Seeshin Shoogai
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:27:00 -
[130]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
A long overdue and much needed change
i'm just like WTF?
thats one of the cheapest excuses i've ever seen from CCP.
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NupetietVer
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:28:00 -
[131]
BOOOOOOOOOO.
Already hard enough to pay 35 bucks for a 60 day GTC and now this? CCP, you are not Blizzard, so bring your prices down, and re-instate Ghost Training.
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Tomoe Heth
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:28:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: CCP Fallout
A long overdue and much needed change
You, my good sir, are about as intelligent as a sack of hammers.
What have sacks of hammers ever done to you,
that you feel the need to insult them so?
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Lori Verkutya
Caldari
The Lavatory Cleaners
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:29:00 -
[133]
you can youknowhat my youknowwhat.
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Aquemini Amarr
Amarr
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[134]
I've got 3 accounts. I (used to) sub them for a month and let a long skill train. This meant that I usually only had 1 or 2 accounts active at any one time. So I guess I've abused this system.
Whats going to happen after this is that instead of CCP getting 3 60day subs over the course of 3-4 months, I'll be consolidating to 1 or 2 accounts.
CCP will be getting less money out of me from this change.
My main point is CCP are fcking clueless these days. Why has this never been implemented in all the years of EVE? I remember Keiron and Oevuer seriously considering it, but something stopped them.
How about, instead of giving a bullshit generic "unbalanced" explanation, give a straight talking explanation of why you are doing it. At the very least you'll earn what very little respect I still hold for CCP.
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Altaree
Red Frog Investments
Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[135]
I wonder if this is a hint that skill queue's are coming soon. That to me would be the only good reason for this change.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[136]
Hey CCP, you tried to remove this in 2005 during the release of Dragon patch. People revolted, you backtracked.
Said it was only for EVE China since they pay-by-the-hour or some shit, and that it wouldn't come here. Yet, here we go again.
If you're going to do a money grab, then do it and be honest about it. Your rationale is just plain wrong.
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Kery Syander
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[137]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND IMMA GONNA GO BUY $500 WORTH OF GTCs. GUD THING THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THE 'FAIRNESS' OF EVE.
CCP, i think you need to get a new weed dealer.. this lysol-laced stuff is gonna just keep killing brain-cells...
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Brinstead
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Bob Niac
this is ebil....
But seriously .. cant we have a buffer? like a week's time?
Two days ought to be enough for anybody!
much like 640k..
I think I just realized what this is - some MBA or a consulting company (McKinsey, etc) came in and made a powerpoint presentation on how much money CCP was leaving on the table with GTC's that cost the same as a subscription, unsubscribed training... guessing next thing on the chopping block is multiple characters per account.
Word of advice from someone who has been there and done that - these types of MBA's / Consultants never factor in customer satisfaction in their calculations, and while they work well for an essential utility (electric, phone (to some extent), etc) they don't work well at all for an economic luxury like what CCP provides, especially not in an economic climate like the one we have today.
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Mad Mackem
E X O D U S
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[139]
Well that's me going down to one account,
Good work
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Ted Raald
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[140]
Finally, CCP have found a way to beat LAG! get rid of 75% of its subscriber base......
Have you ever thought about opening a bank?
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Akyr
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:30:00 -
[141]
Originally by: SiJira
next change from ccp is
your skills stop training when you go offline 
Coming next to your gameŽ
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Di Ferguson
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:32:00 -
[142]
GG CCP
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TheAdj
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:32:00 -
[143]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
A long overdue and much needed change will be put in place with the Wednesday, 15 October 2008 patch. Ghost Training, the continuous skill gain on accounts in an inactive or expired state - will no longer function after Wednesday, 15 October 2008. This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
We understand that this is a hot topic amongst players, and request that you discuss this necessary change without breaking the forum rules.
So you drew the short straw to have to be the poor bastard to post this right? With a name like that it's almost like this is a troll (most of eve hopes this is a troll, what a ****ing awful idea this really is).
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Demitrios
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:32:00 -
[144]
Ive always considered EVE the working mans game.
Unlike world of warcraft where u have to be a bum living at
your parents playing 14 hours aday.
There are alot of folks that love eve cause of this.
when your to busy with your family or work, school, out of the country etc, you know your guy is still training a 50 day skill. Not everyone allows ccp to dip into their visa or mastercard everymonth.
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Little help
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:32:00 -
[145]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
A long overdue and much needed change
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This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
A nice example where greed actually makes you loose money.
But, tbh, I am thankful, this will make it easier to quit the game for good. And reclaim my time that would have been spent on staring at a black login screen.
So, please do implement this much needed feature.
BTW, who wants my stuff? (only giving it to old rich chars, otherwise it might upset the game balance)
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Khwalik
Ghetto Kings
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:33:00 -
[146]
total thumbs down on this, even though I keep 2 accounts running, even with the ridiculous spike in GTC's since the change to 60's, just one more reason to shut down an account or quit EvE all together.
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Malverious Prime
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:34:00 -
[147]
I'll have you stuff...
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Kery Syander
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:34:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Ted Raald
Finally, CCP have found a way to beat LAG! get rid of 75% of its subscriber base......
Have you ever thought about opening a bank?
CCP was heavily invested in WaMu.... hence the sudden need for MOAR MONEY!!!!
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Planning Committee
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:34:00 -
[149]
That's a terrible, terrible idea to announce a couple of weeks before fanfest. 
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Legutko Mongler
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:34:00 -
[150]
This is a terrible idea, I pay month by month one month at a time carefully making sure the longer skills go in between my payments. Taking breaks from the game helps reduce the zzz factor by a lot. now I have to play it constantly?
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