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Amarr Holymight
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:32:00 -
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Does this mean CCP will be reintroducing 30D GTCs and now can we have a skill queue?
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Elana Mosavani
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:33:00 -
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"iceland economy tanked, send dollars tia"
But honestly here, while I have not done so, I know many people that set long skills when an account lapses for good reasons, and the fact that the skill finishes gives them cause to come back to the game. Players that get called up for action to serve their country and can't access EVE oversees, players that know the RL is going to bog them down for the next few months; there are many reasons for letting a subscription lapse, and the fact that the skill still is in training makes them more likely to come back and play.
Think this thru a bit. If you want to put a halt to something while they're unsubbed, halt the R&D points they get.
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Alt 666
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:33:00 -
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What about research agents and research points on inactive accounts? |
Dungar Loghoth
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 13/10/2008 16:35:20
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Alex Salas
BROTHERHOOD OF SPARTA Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.
As mentioned earlier give us skill queue. Why should capsuleers that for 40+ hours a week be "unfairly affected" by people who do not work and have time to take care of their characters?
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CowsCANBark
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:35:00 -
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btw the csm brought up skill que to the devs and they said they were thinking about it. Why the shit do we not have a skill que if they were thinking about it, but now we have this? It's already bad enough you can give yourself bad attributes, or lose skill training because you are podded. Fix the bad stuff first.
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Tomoe Heth
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Holymight Does this mean CCP will be reintroducing 30D GTCs and now can we have a skill queue?
Of course not. But they will soon remove the ability to see how many people who are on, for performance reasons of course. And subscription prices will be adjusted. Upwards.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Alt 666 What about research agents and research points on inactive accounts?
^^^This is what should be killed. Ghost training... not so much. I could see even putting inactive accounts at 50% sp gain but I think killing Ghost training all together is simply going to create a horrid backlash for Eve itself. It is, after all, a feature unique to Eve and Eve alone.
To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean. |
Retmas
Gallente Serial Number Inventors Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Retmas on 13/10/2008 16:40:49 a couple ideas got tossed out that i kinda like in place of ghost training, so i'm putting them out there (yes, i'm putting it in quotes, all you English majors with your MLA format can go to hell)
Originally by: Nemeziskee Remove Ghost training okay, BUT give us skill queue.
Originally by: Mirida If you really want to get players to get rewarded enable all characters on one account to be able to train at the same time if their account is active.
not saying both need to be implemented, but if you're going to screw with the fundamentals of the game, replace what you take out.
-edit- figures, right as i post, someone else posts something cool. props to shar.
Originally by: Shar Tegral Ghost training... not so much. I could see even putting inactive accounts at 50% sp gain but I think killing Ghost training all together is simply going to create a horrid backlash for Eve itself.
It is, after all, a feature unique to Eve and Eve alone.[/justify]
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Capacitor Fluffer
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:37:00 -
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This is by far the worst thing you guys to do to your wallet. You do realize that the 2-3 alt accounts people run so they can play your game (as it has evolved to the point where it's almost impossible to play EVE with just one account)are now going to be dropped and in the end you'll be making less money right?
Because that's the issue. CCP we're not fooled into thinking you suddenly care about upsetting "capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters", which is stupid to say anyway, given the work you need to skill up consists of paying money and waiting. You have proceeded on a campaign to wring more money from your player base and this is just another step towards that.
Again as a company you show your utter lack of understanding towards your own player base. Your continued stupidity will just lose you more money with this decision. Find me the groups of players that take issue with the ability to take a break and not be set back by it. They don't exist.
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Admiral Frools
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Frools on 13/10/2008 16:40:37 Edited by: Admiral Frools on 13/10/2008 16:40:09 I'm sure all these many hundreds of thousands of accounts abusing this terrible ghost training are ruining the game for all those honourable, hard working customers you have who would NEVER think of ghost training
Next time I can't buy a GTC because paypal tell me to get ****ed, I'll just forget to resub my accounts... I mean it's not training anything anymore so its no big deal just not resubbing right?
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Brador
Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:39:00 -
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I tend to agree that this change will reduce the number of returning players when they take a break. I personally have used this in the past to keep myself interested in this game when it gets monotonous - set a skill when my account expires and stop thinking about it for a while. When I'm ready to come back, I knew there would be something new and interesting waiting for me.
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Wirox Crotikus
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:39:00 -
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I hate this! Its just crap, when u are training FC 5 or Titan skills! It takes between 40 to 80 days, thats 2-4 months of training and eve time... Its a NO GO from me....
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Zikka
Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:39:00 -
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Much needed? Why?
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Euriti
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 13/10/2008 16:36:16 http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/84/scroogemcduckbydanitasojd9.png
Moderation snypa :shocker:
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Cras'h
Hulks on stereoids inc
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:40:00 -
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nerf nerf and even more nerf .. i think you did "fallout" of your bed when you decided that this was a god idea
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Vanakov Mek'lanavar
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:40:00 -
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I will be getting rid of three accounts because of this change. With the AUD dropping against the USD nearly 30% its just not worth it too keep them all active at once.... $54 AUD for 60 days is daylight robbery compared to say WoW $31 AUD for 60 days.
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Fastercart
Gallente Ihatalo Heavy Industries Ihatalo Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:42:00 -
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Another comment. Why is this announced just after CCP's recent Power of 2 offer? It would have been fairer to announce this before or during the offer. __ Rorqual AKA Mega Maid
Oh, my God. It's Mega Maid. She's gone from suck to blow. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: slip66 :/ this is going to keep people who takes breaks from returning...
Its a lag reduction method
Also, will this mean characters which are unsubscribed right now will have their training halted on wednesday, or will it only apply to accounts which unsubscribe from wednesday onwards? -----------
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:43:00 -
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As I've been saying for the longest time, if I weren't paying for this awful game with isk, I would have quit long ago. You're making it easier and easier for me to find something better to do with my hobby time. ---
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Cilia Sundara
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Cilia Sundara on 13/10/2008 16:43:07 http://www.jrbooksonline.com/jew-bwa-ha-ha.gif
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Johncrab
Minmatar Typo Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:43:00 -
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This is the lamest move ever. Ty CCP for showing us your true face. Greedy bastards! |
roflc0pters
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fastercart Another comment. Why is this announced just after CCP's recent Power of 2 offer? It would have been fairer to announce this before or during the offer.
They already suckered you into paying for another account so why bother?
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DeadRow
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:47:00 -
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I see no reason for its removal personally, though I do agree with the stopping of Research Points. Ghost Training encourages people to come back imo.
Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
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Willie Lowman
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:47:00 -
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Well, with this change I'll be quitting entirely, not reactivating every so often just in case I get the motivation to play so I can switch training.
This move is going to cost you a lot of accounts.
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The Dribber
Amarr Black Screen of Death HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:47:00 -
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Credit Crunch! LOL!
------------------------ The DribbLer ...yes, I typo'd my own name...
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Johncrab
Minmatar Typo Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout ... This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not...
I never took a break for close to 4 years, still find this the lamest excuse ever. What unfair advantage???
Damn shame, doing something with the only goal of gaining more money and then not even having the balls to admit it |
jitasucks
The Peoples Republic of Uganda
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:47:00 -
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik The first one is that there is basically no warning at all that your game time is about to expire. From one day to the next, it goes "account expired." It would be highly annoying to find out that you weren't training your skill for 1-2 days because you didn't log in yesterday. Please add a reminder "your game time is running out in 7 days" or so when you log in.
On a couple occasions, I've been informed while ingame, that my subscription has run out and been disconnected a few seconds later. This is when it's been set to auto-renew. So now, as well as being booted, it would also stop whatever skill was training at the time?
It's a trivial thing to lose the handful of SP in that case, but what happens when someone has a subscription set to auto-renew and a long skill running, and is away when the due date falls, and it doesn't work?
Don't ask me about the cows. |
Celicia Warren
Gallente R.H. Umbrella Corporation FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:48:00 -
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To be honest guys,
i dont think you really have realized what you are doing to yourself and your wallet with this planned change.
The ghost training is one of the points why many players play this game, it was possible to step back for a few weeks and having , for example, a diploma exercise.
Then they came back and saw, that they still did advantages. No need to mention that many of the older players have multiple accounts, and at this point you can be sure many of them will not be reactivated.
Come, be so kind and say the truth, its all about making more money, and nothing else...
You should be aware of that you cut yourself in your own meat with this planned step, and , indeed in your wallet.
You will loose more money that you think now you could earn with that..
Im deeply disappointed if this will happen, and you wil, from my point of view, loose at least 1 account.
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