And now I have no reason to even start training stealth bombers, torps, cloaks, and missile skills The reason for resubscribing this pilot is in question. Canceling account, and will submit a support ticket for a refund,.

CCP Larrikin: Let's talk about combat warping, such as joining a fight on POS or Wormhole. You won't land all at the same time, and that is one of our stated design goals. People participating instead of being warped around with perfect precision is exactly what we want. We want to give room for skilled fleets rather than skill FC's to shine.

This one nails it for me.



Someone want to educate me in how I can SLOW DOWN my warp speed by using my "skills" please.

Anyone?

Hello......?

This one nails it for me.



Someone want to educate me in how I can SLOW DOWN my warp speed by using my "skills" please.

Anyone?

Hello......?


Edit:

The best way to explain it in a one liner came from there too. You're not making things hard, you're making them awkward.

Awkward isn't fun, nor is overcoming it "skill".

No, it doesn't - can't fit a T2 entosis link. With the smaller entosis range, it's a lot easier to sit a gallente recon w/a sebo to scram it and kill it.

See, what will happen is the FC will get his alt into position, and then warp the fleet to that alt at the right range. This will fulfill none of the stated goals because:
- the alt is the FC's and he will have to do more work for the same result.
- if the alt is not the FC, that dude is now a mobile bookmark and will sit out the fight waiting to provide the next warpin, whereas he would have been a logi or dps or something he enjoys. (Note that if he enjoyed being a scout he would have been one already..)
- the average Joe in fleet is participating no more than before, since he's still being warped around. He does face a lower quality of life, as he is sitting on his hands for that much longer.

This one nails it for me.



Someone want to educate me in how I can SLOW DOWN my warp speed by using my "skills" please.

Anyone?

Hello......?


Edit:

The best way to explain it in a one liner came from there too. You're not making things hard, you're making them awkward.

Awkward isn't fun, nor is overcoming it "skill".

You know how every ship has different warp speeds? You know how 99.9% of doctrines all fly 1-3 ships in each doctrine setting? You know how easy it would be to say, "BS (lol, who uses BS in fleet fights...) start your warp now." *counts down timer* "Logi, start your warp at 50km" *counts down timer* Inties, start your warp now"

So Larrikin confirmed in the wormhole whatsit that he had not thought about the tight timing involved in catching bears in wormhole sites. This is also an issue in nullsec. If you have to combat scan you are on the clock.

While I understand the goals I do not want this play style hurt by these changes. I hope that CCP's wormhole solution (assuming there is one) is also applicable in null so I have a chance at catching people under these circumstances.

Please at least consider reducing the fitting requirements of Expanded Probe launchers so I don't have to use a T3 to scan and tackle.

Use a cov-ops.

To tackle? Lol

You know how every ship has different warp speeds? You know how 99.9% of doctrines all fly 1-3 ships in each doctrine setting? You know how easy it would be to say, "BS (lol, who uses BS in fleet fights...) start your warp now." *counts down timer* "Logi, start your warp at 50km" *counts down timer* Inties, start your warp now"

Then all of sudden you have a fleet landing roughly at the same time as opposed to the current version of exactly at the same time. This change will give players a lot more responsibility (unless the overlord FC continues to micro manage everything in a fleet as current status quo), and it's still manageable to keep the fleet nearly together. But it also allows players to make mistakes and get punished by that; i.e. warping too early, warping to the wrong range, warping off grid too late and getting caught, etc.

Except we don't have access to a TTL (time to land) formula, so this isn't possible to work out with any degree of accuracy.

Yup, it's at 23:30 on the soundcloud. He'd love to remove Approach, Keep at Range, and Orbit. Because in any kind of fight of significant size, the logistics clearly don't have enough to do, trying to catch broadcasts that can be coming in at a rate of dozens in a second while still keeping themselves from drifting off away from the fleet or into enemy gun range.

Tell you what, Larrikin: forget the nav interface - give me a crew, so I can have the 10-50 people able to focus on different tasks that my cruiser's already supposed to have at minimum.

Cuz I'm good, but I can't actually do the work of 10 brains at once, let alone 50.

Honestly, when was the last time these guys did anything in subcaps larger than a dozen people in their fleet?

Well, I'm pretty sure it's not impossible to roughly approximate it by gathering experimental data from people in your corp/alliance.
Pretty sure that's what some entities were doing since forever when faced with tasks like this one.

It helps that doctrines don't have huge variance of warp speeds, so you can leave out bothering with trying to stuff warp speed variable as opposed to counting what you need on class-by-class basis.

Not that I'm trying to support the change, but it's a way to go around in case these changes drop.

Offloading some fleet movement to the FC frees fleet members to make other tactical decisions rather than spending all their time following lots of trivial orders. EVE is a complicated game and if fleet members aren't already using their brains, they're underperforming. Apart from the warp change breaking multiple playstyles, wormhole life and -10 highsec fleets, nerfing fleet warping or indeed anchoring doesn't change the skill cap, it changes the skill floor and effectively excludes more people from fleets.

If your goal is to increase "fleet participation", driving everyone but another FC alt away from fleets is a terrible way to go about it.

Yeaaaaah, if they want to do that, they damned well better give us 3-dimensional navigation systems, or it's going to be impossible to keep a fleet moving together.

'Everybody aim 4 stars left of the nearest planet... and then up, even with the second cloud band up from the planet's equator.'
'FC, I'm playing on low graphics because there's 1200 people on grid?'
'RIP.'


I mean, hell, at least give us the ability to set xy/z headings off of the 'north' each system map defaults to - and let us put them in through an actual gorram nav interface, not clicking more or less blindly in space. 'Everyone align heading 283 by -30' will still throw things into utter chaos, but at least then we can enjoy mocking one another for not being able to use a keypad.

Edit to add: Ideally, this would work reciprocally - clicking in space would display the heading you've set on the nav display, so the FC can align, then give everyone the heading. (Or, for that matter, scouts and other fleet members could relay that nav data by clicking in space to get a relative heading - 'FC, they're landing on-grid, bearing 125 degrees by 80 degrees.')

If you don't want to be a scout then dont be one, to say you are nothing more than a boring mobile bookmark though is a lie. This is how we used to do things and there was a lot of people who had fun with it. It is one of the most active jobs you could have in a fleet and a damnsight more engaging than ctrl-click next broadcasted target.

Step 2 - Allow each pilot to set their warp-speed (up to ship max), in the HUD.