Feeding the "I want crowd" Logi haven't changed in what? A decade? Now they are a problem? Tier 3s, T3s, etc while the T1s languish. Newbies keep having further and further to go and that is disheartening.

Utility > power.

You think I'm trolling but our FC ships do infact all come with combat probes fitted. Think about this, the organisation that has effectively won null and owns a good number of the best FCs in the game has put forwards this idea to nerf fleets. We are calling to nerf our own fleets because they are too easy to run. This change is not a hard one to adapt to but it does remove one of the biggest advantages we have in a fight vs the highly disorganized rabble that is most of EVE.

...random flames and butthurt...


That's all there is to say. CCP, this breaks my gameplay and prevents me from ever again FCing a proer fleet of outlaws in highsec. It reduces my gameplay to all that of the lesser gankers and there *is* *nothing* I can do to adapt. I can happily SHOW YOU if you wish so, just throw me an eve-mail at Solecist Project.

so because you're overlord fc's have mastered fleet fights you want them nerfed so its harder for any upcoming/learning fc to engage in fleet fights? what a selfish thing to say

tbh, if your Thrasher-Ganks of capsules and noobships in Highsec are not longer possible, no none will cry a tear.

"FCing fleets of outlaws in highsec..." ... lol... and I really did expect to find something innovative or exciting after your rant.

That is like saying it was selfish of us to tell CCP they needed to nerf tracking titans. We stand to lose the most from this change as our tactics rely heavily upon one guy in the fleet doing nearly all the work.

In its current state, the bookmark system just does not and cannot provide an acceptable substitute for the fleet warp mechanic.
As such, at least squad warp needs to remain.

That is like saying it was selfish of us to tell CCP they needed to nerf tracking titans. We stand to lose the most from this change as our tactics rely heavily upon one guy in the fleet doing nearly all the work.

tbh, if your Thrasher-Ganks of capsules and noobships in Highsec are not longer possible, no none will cry a tear.

And you are just a lesser ganker like the rest of them. Your empty words mean nothing, because you do not even understand what I am talking about. Just because you were -10 does not mean you know what every -10 does or can do. What matters is that the relevant people (not you) understand that this breaks my gameplay and there is no way to properly adapt to it. I do not need to explain it to you, as you do not matter in the slightest. Hell, the amount of empty words in your post is embarassing. You should go into politics.

I will not respond in this thread any more, as the important parts have been set and done. None of you can go into this, because none of you plays like me. I can absolutely guarantee that. CCP can easily go through years of logs about Solstice Project and Solecist Project and find out all by themselves that this would completely break my fleets.

That is *all* that matters. I am not posting here to discuss with you, because you do not matter. Your opinions matter when it comes to the change, but not when it comes to what others say about that change. They especially do not matter when you do not understand what the other person is talking about and randomly trying to argue with people is completely silly and childish. (baltec, for example, who is attention whoring like a madman).


That's all there is to say. CCP, this breaks my gameplay and prevents me from ever again FCing a proer fleet of outlaws in highsec. It reduces my gameplay to all that of the lesser gankers and there *is* *nothing* I can do to adapt. I can happily SHOW YOU if you wish so, just throw me an eve-mail at Solecist Project.


Cheers.

In other words you've never actually FCed at -10 in highsec, so you have literally no insight into what this means for -10 highsec fleets.

That is like saying it was selfish of us to tell CCP they needed to nerf tracking titans. We stand to lose the most from this change as our tactics rely heavily upon one guy in the fleet doing nearly all the work.

Feeding the "I want crowd" Logi haven't changed in what? A decade? Now they are a problem? Tier 3s, T3s, etc while the T1s languish. Newbies keep having further and further to go and that is disheartening.

Utility > power.

Logis have been a root problem as to why the increases happen. Not the only, by far not the smallest reason. And not being changed doesn't mean anything in regards to their place. If you haven't noticed, a lot of things that were 'fine' and untouched for years are getting redone and tweaked.

Sure, it could be the 'I want' crowd too, but how do you distinguish who is who in a room of people who think everyone else is wrong?

Ah the guy with 17 kill and a birth date of 2013 talks down on the guy with 1300+ kills from 2009. This is currently the best popcorn thread on all of eve o forums.

One Manfred Sideous of Pandemic Legion, CSM rep and if you want tin foil, CCP Larriakn is formerly Bam Stroker, of Van Demons Demise, a member corp of Pandemic Legion.

Reminder that people are clearly contempt pressing F1, as they can do more than press F1 when they feel like it, and this change is unnecessary.

And if he has a single kill in highsec I sure can't find it. Sorry that I don't post on the character I have over 2000 kills on but I started posting on my scout and I'll continue doing so.

And here you go off the deep end again with your doom mongering. Scouts being needed for fleets is not the end of the world, if you don't have the numbers then go hire some newbees from a starter system.

Because having a dedicated scout is impossible to ask of a small gang

While New Eden would be an amazing place full of love, friendship and solidarity if I were CCP Larrikin I have to let everyone down by clearing up this misunderstanding.