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TYCONDEROGA
Amarr EMPERIAL ARMOR
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:59:00 -
[1261]
Originally by: Snakebloke
Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 13/10/2008 22:38:11 If you cannot afford 15$ a month for a hobby as time consuming as this, you seriously need to re-evaluate your budget, or your life.
I've been playing since 04' and I've never taken advantage of Ghost training, my loss? maybe...
Who cares. I love the game CCP puts out, and I will gladly MOTHER ****ING PAY FOR IT.
Whining bastards. 
Just for your information that is an immature, naieve view of the world that we live in and i hope that you reach puberty sooner than later. I understand that CCP wont like what i just said but i dont care, some people have children, reesponsibilities or $800 credit card bills for Fanfest '08 (woot cant wait :D) so saying such a thing is simply ign'ant
So to summarize. naive, immature, and ignorant is the following:
Not living beyond ones means Paying for something you enjoy
And Mature is:
Paying 800$ for fanfest Not being able to afford the 15$ subscription fee for the game that you're going to fanfest to celebrate.
Nice Reasoning there. He who defends Everything, Defends Nothing! |

Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:59:00 -
[1262]
Originally by: ghengis khan2 hey maybe next move will be like in diablo, where if you dont play for a certain ammount of time they delete your account,,....
Yeah, that'd be about as smart is this idea.
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xOmGx
Warriors tribe Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:59:00 -
[1263]
Every one i think we need to do 1 thing...
Spase some $ and buy a can Vaseline foa a guy who introduced this crazzy idea, i realy getting feeling he may reealy need this one shortly.
And the real truth we may face some bug's SP looses if thay implant THIS, as usual we have problems every time CCP trying to fix working machine... No Pain - No Gain |

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:59:00 -
[1264]
I have no strong opinions one way or the other, but if you're quitting I'd like your stuff. __________
Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail? |

Aganola
Amarr Hungarian Riflemen Regiment
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:59:00 -
[1265]
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Jimer Lins I have a request, CCP:
Please post your subscription numbers as of today, the 15th, and one month after this change goes live so we can point and laugh at all the "I'm cancelling all my accounts!" people when it's shown that this will have no net effect on actual paying subscriptions.
I'd like to see the graph too, but for the opposite reason 
You'll see jack...
subscriptions (GTC) are of 2 months period... try and come back for the quaterly report...
1 month will show a rise in subs 2 month will show a fall of subs 3 month will plumet... ----------------------------------------------- "I do not belive in reicarnation... I didn't believed in it in my previous lives either..."
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Jauques Strap
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:00:00 -
[1266]
I would like to open with some obvious sarcasm.....Whoa! Wait a minute. You mean I have to pay RL money for this game?!?
You people are pathetic little whiners. Here I am paying RL money each month to simply play a game, but no, you couldn't leave it at that.
Okay, I can barely see the argument about being shipped over seas or laid up in the hospital. But you can't have a friend or family member log once every 1-2 months for you to click a couple buttons?!? I could write one small paragraph so a four-year-old could do it correctly. And if life sux that much for you perhaps you shouldn't be so freaking worried about a game and how many skill points any one of your 25 freaking accounts has accumulated or which one is due for some clicks.
I bet most of everyone here complaining never pays a single bit of RL money to play this stupid game! Like "TheAdj" who commented on the 1st page of this thread that GTC's are going to eventually cost 500m isk. All that says to me is "I make enough fake money in game to play for free and I'm going to whine about it." And while I'm at it, I'm going to take the advantage I have and exploit it by training a whole bunch of accounts. And oh yeah, not pay for any of them.
Well, screw you and the horse you rode in on pal. Join the club. Stand in line. Wait your turn. Sit down and shut the **** up! Who in the frak raised you? Wild goats?
You're going to have to now pick and choose who lives and who bites the digital bullet out of your precious little armada of characters you whiny little immature, sociopathic, brat. Or better yet, keep your little fake people and get a RL job, or one that pays better.
I personally can't wait for the culling to begin. Just like when CCP cleaned up space of all the abandoned cargo cans and ships that were just sitting there for years.
You're all cheating and the sad thing is you all know it and the worst part of it all is that you have the balls to post here and complain about your cheating.
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Kalius Prime
D10 Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:00:00 -
[1267]
LCIK CA NUT CCP........ Damn business models messing up shit. There has to be some dumb ass wanting to increase profits while ignoring loyal customers. CCP Fallout, great op to announce the change, since that is what it is a Quote: fallout
of loyal customers
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lacktale
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:00:00 -
[1268]
I for one, can see a benefit to this, with this can we expect skill stacking? I for one, always have my account paid up so this makes no difference to me. But since I can only assume that the reason skill stacking hasnĘt been added is because of this. Can we now expect it?
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente Biotronics Inc. Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:00:00 -
[1269]
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Jimer Lins I have a request, CCP:
Please post your subscription numbers as of today, the 15th, and one month after this change goes live so we can point and laugh at all the "I'm cancelling all my accounts!" people when it's shown that this will have no net effect on actual paying subscriptions.
I'd like to see the graph too, but for the opposite reason 
I'd like to see a 'pre 60 days GTC' graph and a 'post 60 days GTC' graph. Subscription numbers and income through subscriptions.
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Balance is power, guard hide it well
"Ceterum censeo Polycarbonem esse delendam" |

Ithnolin
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:00:00 -
[1270]
Originally by: Velda Chulai
Originally by: Ithnolin
Cause that Level 5 BS skill helps you fly sooooo many more ships and do sooooo many more things than BS 4. Wonderful logic there.
It opens up capital ships, which are significant.
HHEHEHEHEHEHE,
The difference between BS lvl 5 and Cap Ships is...oh... another 200 days of skill training. Sure, BS V lets you start training cap ships, but you still got another 200+ days to go to fully fit and fly one. So please, come up with a better excuse for your whining.
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Ostr0mir
Minmatar Never Knows Best
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:01:00 -
[1271]
Edited by: Ostr0mir on 13/10/2008 23:01:30 Yes, some of the players are addicted to the game, they will pay you anyway.
Some, but not all of them. Not even 15%. And, with the economic crisis getting worse, expensive online gaming (i.e. MMORPG subscription) will be a luxury item for most people, and it will be neglected due to the lack of money.
YOU WILL LOSE MORE THAN YOU WILL GAIN, CCP
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TYCONDEROGA
Amarr EMPERIAL ARMOR
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:01:00 -
[1272]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 13/10/2008 22:38:11 If you cannot afford 15$ a month for a hobby as time consuming as this, you seriously need to re-evaluate your budget, or your life.
I've been playing since 04' and I've never taken advantage of Ghost training, my loss? maybe...
Who cares. I love the game CCP puts out, and I will gladly MOTHER ****ING PAY FOR IT.
Whining bastards. 
Hope you've still got a job next month mate. Because I don't think many people can say for sure that they will.
Plenty of jobs to go around out here in Iraq, raping children and killing innocents.
pays good too. He who defends Everything, Defends Nothing! |

RDevz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:02:00 -
[1273]
This idea is awful. I'll probably rationalise my accounts down to two from four. I keep all of my accounts subscribed 75% of the time. I'll keep two accounts subscribed 100% of the time. Which means that I'll be paying $15 a month less.
Ho hum.
Originally by: Tappits Thank you CCP i love you
Its about time CCP fixed this crap you should have to pay for the SP on you alts just like I do you cheap ***s go get a job. Hopefully this will get rid of the blobs a bit and make 1v1 combat more available as no one will have the recon L5 max skilled alts floating around and max skilled cap ship alts and stuff that cost them a 30 day GTC or 2 for all loads of 60 days skills.
:atlas:
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Nureoeis
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:02:00 -
[1274]
Glad you gave people notice of these changes in advance, Two Days.
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Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:02:00 -
[1275]
Originally by: Jauques Strap I bet most of everyone here complaining never pays a single bit of RL money to play this stupid game!
I've been playing for two and a half years and have never bought a GTC with ISK. I've paid with credit card and with CC-bought GTCs.
So yeah, take your rant and stick it. |

Ishbuanium
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:02:00 -
[1276]
Originally by: Aganola
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Jimer Lins I have a request, CCP:
Please post your subscription numbers as of today, the 15th, and one month after this change goes live so we can point and laugh at all the "I'm cancelling all my accounts!" people when it's shown that this will have no net effect on actual paying subscriptions.
I'd like to see the graph too, but for the opposite reason 
You'll see jack...
subscriptions (GTC) are of 2 months period... try and come back for the quaterly report...
1 month will show a rise in subs 2 month will show a fall of subs 3 month will plumet...
You still might see a small dip in subs in the first month, but point taken. Not like they're going to release the sub numbers though.
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britishfish
Minmatar Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:03:00 -
[1277]
so is this CCP`s way of reducing the lag ?
time to start looking for a new game methinks
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:04:00 -
[1278]
Originally by: TYCONDEROGA
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 13/10/2008 22:38:11 If you cannot afford 15$ a month for a hobby as time consuming as this, you seriously need to re-evaluate your budget, or your life.
I've been playing since 04' and I've never taken advantage of Ghost training, my loss? maybe...
Who cares. I love the game CCP puts out, and I will gladly MOTHER ****ING PAY FOR IT.
Whining bastards. 
Hope you've still got a job next month mate. Because I don't think many people can say for sure that they will.
Plenty of jobs to go around out here in Iraq, raping children and killing innocents.
pays good too.
That job above all is an insecure one. Better sub up for a year before the Chinese get caught quietly unloading as much of their dollar reserves as they can dump on chumps before anyone notices and your paychecks become worth less than toilet paper.
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shelia kreee
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:04:00 -
[1279]
I got a few of my friends into this game because they knew they could leave from time to time and come back with something new to look foward to. Without that incentive they wont come back. I always thought this was a great feature and one of the reasons eve is better then most other mmo's. oh well, ccp sucks.
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Fred Ayurveda
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:04:00 -
[1280]
Edited by: Fred Ayurveda on 13/10/2008 23:04:30 I still love the fat, shitsocking homosexuals who somehow have such severe Stockholm syndrome that they're defending CCP against the anger of players who were smart enough to utilize this feature EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE TO THEM EITHER WAY.
Kill yourselves...
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Tappits
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:04:00 -
[1281]
This whole Topic just shows CCP how much money there loosing at the mo with all these people saying itĘs a bad thing. I take it you all ghost train or have done at some point? You all just been trolled
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TYCONDEROGA
Amarr EMPERIAL ARMOR
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:05:00 -
[1282]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: TYCONDEROGA
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 13/10/2008 22:38:11 If you cannot afford 15$ a month for a hobby as time consuming as this, you seriously need to re-evaluate your budget, or your life.
I've been playing since 04' and I've never taken advantage of Ghost training, my loss? maybe...
Who cares. I love the game CCP puts out, and I will gladly MOTHER ****ING PAY FOR IT.
Whining bastards. 
Hope you've still got a job next month mate. Because I don't think many people can say for sure that they will.
Plenty of jobs to go around out here in Iraq, raping children and killing innocents.
pays good too.
That job above all is an insecure one. Better sub up for a year before the Chinese get caught quietly unloading as much of their dollar reserves as they can dump on chumps before anyone notices and your paychecks become worth less than toilet paper.
My portfolio is Diversified, I have plenty of everyone else's Monopoly money as well. Thankyou for the concern though. He who defends Everything, Defends Nothing! |

Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:05:00 -
[1283]
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Aganola
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Jimer Lins I have a request, CCP:
Please post your subscription numbers as of today, the 15th, and one month after this change goes live so we can point and laugh at all the "I'm cancelling all my accounts!" people when it's shown that this will have no net effect on actual paying subscriptions.
I'd like to see the graph too, but for the opposite reason 
You'll see jack...
subscriptions (GTC) are of 2 months period... try and come back for the quaterly report...
1 month will show a rise in subs 2 month will show a fall of subs 3 month will plumet...
You still might see a small dip in subs in the first month, but point taken. Not like they're going to release the sub numbers though.
CCP always made their active account numbers public. I wonder how long that tradition will last.
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Aganola
Amarr Hungarian Riflemen Regiment
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:05:00 -
[1284]
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Aganola
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Jimer Lins I have a request, CCP:
Please post your subscription numbers as of today, the 15th, and one month after this change goes live so we can point and laugh at all the "I'm cancelling all my accounts!" people when it's shown that this will have no net effect on actual paying subscriptions.
I'd like to see the graph too, but for the opposite reason 
You'll see jack...
subscriptions (GTC) are of 2 months period... try and come back for the quaterly report...
1 month will show a rise in subs 2 month will show a fall of subs 3 month will plumet...
You still might see a small dip in subs in the first month, but point taken. Not like they're going to release the sub numbers though.
yeah... they didn't do this for a while now... remember when they boasted, that they reached 250k?
I never even heard a peep since!! ( not to mention GTC change and now this! :P) ----------------------------------------------- "I do not belive in reicarnation... I didn't believed in it in my previous lives either..."
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:06:00 -
[1285]
Originally by: Carsidava
Originally by: Jauques Strap I bet most of everyone here complaining never pays a single bit of RL money to play this stupid game!
I've been playing for two and a half years and have never bought a GTC with ISK. I've paid with credit card and with CC-bought GTCs.
So yeah, take your rant and stick it.
I have never bought a GTC with isk. As a matter of fact, I pay by yearly subscription now. I have never intentionally used ghost training. I do not agree with CCP's stance.
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Mitsuko Souma
Gallente The United Federation of Spice
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:06:00 -
[1286]
meh.
If you're really going to do this, can you at least have a weekend where you can transfer accounts around for free please :)
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Zacheria Malfor
Gallente Pernicious Creed
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:06:00 -
[1287]
Edited by: Zacheria Malfor on 13/10/2008 23:09:39 Over 5 years into the game seems a bit late for a change of this magnitude.
In all honesty this is calling into question my long term future in eve, I have played the game for many years, taking a few breaks due to RL as many other players no doubt have. Part the reason I kept coming back without a second thought was knowing that I had skills done so that I'd still be able to keep up with the constantly changing dynamics of the game in regards to skills and newly implemented items and features.
I cannot support this move at all and it is evident that many here do not support this move either. You have a product that fills a niche here CCP and you are the owners of your property but a move like this could seriously damage subscriptions in regards to players leaving the game for temporary breaks as opposed to leaving the game permanently.
A lot of the changes have been questionable of late, I guess this is just another to add onto the pyre.
Edit - To those saying "It's only $15 a month", when people take breaks I'm sure the majority view it as a case of there is no point in paying something they aren't using. Just to clarify by using I mean actively playing... I hardly class skill training as active play.
/Zacheria
Do not fear the reaper, for death is the only certainty in life.
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Ithnolin
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:06:00 -
[1288]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 13/10/2008 22:38:11 If you cannot afford 15$ a month for a hobby as time consuming as this, you seriously need to re-evaluate your budget, or your life.
I've been playing since 04' and I've never taken advantage of Ghost training, my loss? maybe...
Who cares. I love the game CCP puts out, and I will gladly MOTHER ****ING PAY FOR IT.
Whining bastards. 
Hope you've still got a job next month mate. Because I don't think many people can say for sure that they will.
I can. I pay for two accounts, at the same time even, all year long. I won't be quiting over this. I will be buying up all the accounts for sale here in the near future for 1 isk each.
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Aganola
Amarr Hungarian Riflemen Regiment
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:07:00 -
[1289]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Aganola
Originally by: Ishbuanium
Originally by: Jimer Lins I have a request, CCP:
Please post your subscription numbers as of today, the 15th, and one month after this change goes live so we can point and laugh at all the "I'm cancelling all my accounts!" people when it's shown that this will have no net effect on actual paying subscriptions.
I'd like to see the graph too, but for the opposite reason 
You'll see jack...
subscriptions (GTC) are of 2 months period... try and come back for the quaterly report...
1 month will show a rise in subs 2 month will show a fall of subs 3 month will plumet...
You still might see a small dip in subs in the first month, but point taken. Not like they're going to release the sub numbers though.
CCP always made their active account numbers public. I wonder how long that tradition will last.
public? where?? show me! plz! ----------------------------------------------- "I do not belive in reicarnation... I didn't believed in it in my previous lives either..."
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:08:00 -
[1290]
It's also terrible how you announced this change 2 days before it goes into effect.
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