EVE Search - Reduce Thoraxes bay to 100m3

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Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.06 01:41:00 - [1111] Originally by: Naughty Boy Typical response. Well, with that i guess you can't answer me.. so well the reason for you crying on this post amounts to ... well nothing. Being as you never read a post fully, and pick at little bits to try and proved you failed point. I'm sorry if you couldn't understand simple things.. and well i really hoped that you did follow the supposed advice you tried to give in your siggy.. but i guess you couldn't even do that. Ahhh well, soon you will have something else to cry about.. some other ship will to overpowered and you will jump on that bradishing your nerf this banner.
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.06 01:41:00 - [1112] Originally by: Naughty Boy Typical response. Well, with that i guess you can't answer me.. so well the reason for you crying on this post amounts to ... well nothing. Being as you never read a post fully, and pick at little bits to try and proved you failed point. I'm sorry if you couldn't understand simple things.. and well i really hoped that you did follow the supposed advice you tried to give in your siggy.. but i guess you couldn't even do that. Ahhh well, soon you will have something else to cry about.. some other ship will to overpowered and you will jump on that bradishing your nerf this banner.
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.06 01:41:00 - [1113] Originally by: Naughty Boy Typical response. Well, with that i guess you can't answer me.. so well the reason for you crying on this post amounts to ... well nothing. Being as you never read a post fully, and pick at little bits to try and proved you failed point. I'm sorry if you couldn't understand simple things.. and well i really hoped that you did follow the supposed advice you tried to give in your siggy.. but i guess you couldn't even do that. Ahhh well, soon you will have something else to cry about.. some other ship will to overpowered and you will jump on that bradishing your nerf this banner.
ELECTR0FREAK	Posted - 2005.09.06 01:46:00 - [1114] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 06/09/2005 01:47:49 Originally by: Ravenge Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Thats hardly difficult to get. Especially when you dont have to worry about any gunnery or missile skills to achieve that DPS. Keep going as your uber set up needs a little more then drone skills.. you can't fit 1600 mm plate and active hardeners with just lvl 3 gallente cruiser and drone skills. your looking at a couple of months training to get the uber tanking and dps you keep spouting about.. maybe a bit less if you train the learning skills... but you also have to add them to the training time. Dude, you're being ridiculous. You need Hull Upgrades 3 and Mechanic I for a 1600mm plate. You don't even need medium turret skills because you're fitting frigate blasters. Heavy Drones 5 is 226k SP and Heavy Drones 4 is 226k SP. Drone Interfacing 3 is what, 45k SP? Heck, you can still pull 160 DPS out of a Thorax's drones using only Heavy Drones 3, so you can manage it all with about 320k SP in Drones. Compare that to the amount of work you need to put into Missile or Gunnery skills. Use your head man. With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. -Electrofreak Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God	Posted - 2005.09.06 01:46:00 - [1115] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 06/09/2005 01:47:49 Originally by: Ravenge Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Thats hardly difficult to get. Especially when you dont have to worry about any gunnery or missile skills to achieve that DPS. Keep going as your uber set up needs a little more then drone skills.. you can't fit 1600 mm plate and active hardeners with just lvl 3 gallente cruiser and drone skills. your looking at a couple of months training to get the uber tanking and dps you keep spouting about.. maybe a bit less if you train the learning skills... but you also have to add them to the training time. Dude, you're being ridiculous. You need Hull Upgrades 3 and Mechanic I for a 1600mm plate. You don't even need medium turret skills because you're fitting frigate blasters. Heavy Drones 5 is 226k SP and Heavy Drones 4 is 226k SP. Drone Interfacing 3 is what, 45k SP? Heck, you can still pull 160 DPS out of a Thorax's drones using only Heavy Drones 3, so you can manage it all with about 320k SP in Drones. Compare that to the amount of work you need to put into Missile or Gunnery skills. Use your head man. With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God	Posted - 2005.09.06 01:46:00 - [1116] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 06/09/2005 01:47:49 Originally by: Ravenge Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Thats hardly difficult to get. Especially when you dont have to worry about any gunnery or missile skills to achieve that DPS. Keep going as your uber set up needs a little more then drone skills.. you can't fit 1600 mm plate and active hardeners with just lvl 3 gallente cruiser and drone skills. your looking at a couple of months training to get the uber tanking and dps you keep spouting about.. maybe a bit less if you train the learning skills... but you also have to add them to the training time. Dude, you're being ridiculous. You need Hull Upgrades 3 and Mechanic I for a 1600mm plate. You don't even need medium turret skills because you're fitting frigate blasters. Heavy Drones 5 is 226k SP and Heavy Drones 4 is 226k SP. Drone Interfacing 3 is what, 45k SP? Heck, you can still pull 160 DPS out of a Thorax's drones using only Heavy Drones 3, so you can manage it all with about 320k SP in Drones. Compare that to the amount of work you need to put into Missile or Gunnery skills. Use your head man. With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.06 02:09:00 - [1117] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Dude, you're being ridiculous. You need Hull Upgrades 3 and Mechanic I for a 1600mm plate. You don't even need medium turret skills because you're fitting frigate blasters. Heavy Drones 5 is 226k SP and Heavy Drones 4 is 226k SP. Drone Interfacing 3 is what, 45k SP? Heck, you can still pull 160 DPS out of a Thorax's drones using only Heavy Drones 3, so you can manage it all with about 320k SP in Drones. Compare that to the amount of work you need to put into Missile or Gunnery skills. Use your head man. With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Oh i am using my head... shame you haven't noticed the skill ranks involved the training times and so on... let alone that a rax using the bare minumum skills is a dead.. 1600mm plate or not.. as it won't have the cap after mwd'ing to its target to run its tank. Oh and just one question... have you seen what 4 medium drones do to a heavy drone? quite suprising the results you get from them...
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.06 02:09:00 - [1118] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Dude, you're being ridiculous. You need Hull Upgrades 3 and Mechanic I for a 1600mm plate. You don't even need medium turret skills because you're fitting frigate blasters. Heavy Drones 5 is 226k SP and Heavy Drones 4 is 226k SP. Drone Interfacing 3 is what, 45k SP? Heck, you can still pull 160 DPS out of a Thorax's drones using only Heavy Drones 3, so you can manage it all with about 320k SP in Drones. Compare that to the amount of work you need to put into Missile or Gunnery skills. Use your head man. With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Oh i am using my head... shame you haven't noticed the skill ranks involved the training times and so on... let alone that a rax using the bare minumum skills is a dead.. 1600mm plate or not.. as it won't have the cap after mwd'ing to its target to run its tank. Oh and just one question... have you seen what 4 medium drones do to a heavy drone? quite suprising the results you get from them...
Ravenge	Posted - 2005.09.06 02:09:00 - [1119] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Dude, you're being ridiculous. You need Hull Upgrades 3 and Mechanic I for a 1600mm plate. You don't even need medium turret skills because you're fitting frigate blasters. Heavy Drones 5 is 226k SP and Heavy Drones 4 is 226k SP. Drone Interfacing 3 is what, 45k SP? Heck, you can still pull 160 DPS out of a Thorax's drones using only Heavy Drones 3, so you can manage it all with about 320k SP in Drones. Compare that to the amount of work you need to put into Missile or Gunnery skills. Use your head man. With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Oh i am using my head... shame you haven't noticed the skill ranks involved the training times and so on... let alone that a rax using the bare minumum skills is a dead.. 1600mm plate or not.. as it won't have the cap after mwd'ing to its target to run its tank. Oh and just one question... have you seen what 4 medium drones do to a heavy drone? quite suprising the results you get from them...
ELECTR0FREAK	Posted - 2005.09.06 02:58:00 - [1120] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 06/09/2005 03:09:08 ... 1 skillpoint takes the same amount of time to train no matter what the rank. Its attributes alone that dictate how long a single skillpoint takes to train. The rank is a multiplier for the amount of skillpoints a skill increases by per level. Please figure out how the system works before you go spouting bull. I'd like to see a bare skill point Maller, Rupture, or Moa do better than a bare skill point Thorax. No other cruiser can do so much DPS while tanking so well at under a million SP. If the Thorax takes so many skill points to use effectively, prove it to me. Also, please calculate the amount of time it takes for 4 medium drones to go through 8 heavy drones, and go ahead and tell me the amount of damage those 8 heavy drones will do to a target in that time. Once you've figured that out, get back to me. Edit- and btw... a 1600mm plate IS the plate-Rax's tank. 5k HP with 4 hardners running is no simple task to break through... especially when the Rax is doing 250 damage per second to you. -Electrofreak Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God	Posted - 2005.09.06 02:58:00 - [1121] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 06/09/2005 03:09:08 ... 1 skillpoint takes the same amount of time to train no matter what the rank. Its attributes alone that dictate how long a single skillpoint takes to train. The rank is a multiplier for the amount of skillpoints a skill increases by per level. Please figure out how the system works before you go spouting bull. I'd like to see a bare skill point Maller, Rupture, or Moa do better than a bare skill point Thorax. No other cruiser can do so much DPS while tanking so well at under a million SP. If the Thorax takes so many skill points to use effectively, prove it to me. Also, please calculate the amount of time it takes for 4 medium drones to go through 8 heavy drones, and go ahead and tell me the amount of damage those 8 heavy drones will do to a target in that time. Once you've figured that out, get back to me. Edit- and btw... a 1600mm plate IS the plate-Rax's tank. 5k HP with 4 hardners running is no simple task to break through... especially when the Rax is doing 250 damage per second to you. Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God	Posted - 2005.09.06 02:58:00 - [1122] Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 06/09/2005 03:09:08 ... 1 skillpoint takes the same amount of time to train no matter what the rank. Its attributes alone that dictate how long a single skillpoint takes to train. The rank is a multiplier for the amount of skillpoints a skill increases by per level. Please figure out how the system works before you go spouting bull. I'd like to see a bare skill point Maller, Rupture, or Moa do better than a bare skill point Thorax. No other cruiser can do so much DPS while tanking so well at under a million SP. If the Thorax takes so many skill points to use effectively, prove it to me. Also, please calculate the amount of time it takes for 4 medium drones to go through 8 heavy drones, and go ahead and tell me the amount of damage those 8 heavy drones will do to a target in that time. Once you've figured that out, get back to me. Edit- and btw... a 1600mm plate IS the plate-Rax's tank. 5k HP with 4 hardners running is no simple task to break through... especially when the Rax is doing 250 damage per second to you. Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
Garreck	Posted - 2005.09.06 04:17:00 - [1123] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Edit- and btw... a 1600mm plate IS the plate-Rax's tank. 5k HP with 4 hardners running is no simple task to break through... especially when the Rax is doing 250 damage per second to you. So...take away the plate. Then you can kill him as he's mwd-ing at you with a sig-radius the size of a station. Or die because you started the engagement too close. See, what's fun about the thorax if you take away the plate is that it's all about vying for position...it brings skill and trickery into the equation. If you start at 15km, thorax wins. Start at 30km, thorax loses. Start somewhere in between, and skillpoints come more into effect and it's a pulse-pounding few seconds as you find out who's got what. Garreck Aeternus Crusade Aku. Soku. Zan.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2005.09.06 04:17:00 - [1124] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Edit- and btw... a 1600mm plate IS the plate-Rax's tank. 5k HP with 4 hardners running is no simple task to break through... especially when the Rax is doing 250 damage per second to you. So...take away the plate. Then you can kill him as he's mwd-ing at you with a sig-radius the size of a station. Or die because you started the engagement too close. See, what's fun about the thorax if you take away the plate is that it's all about vying for position...it brings skill and trickery into the equation. If you start at 15km, thorax wins. Start at 30km, thorax loses. Start somewhere in between, and skillpoints come more into effect and it's a pulse-pounding few seconds as you find out who's got what.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2005.09.06 04:17:00 - [1125] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK Edit- and btw... a 1600mm plate IS the plate-Rax's tank. 5k HP with 4 hardners running is no simple task to break through... especially when the Rax is doing 250 damage per second to you. So...take away the plate. Then you can kill him as he's mwd-ing at you with a sig-radius the size of a station. Or die because you started the engagement too close. See, what's fun about the thorax if you take away the plate is that it's all about vying for position...it brings skill and trickery into the equation. If you start at 15km, thorax wins. Start at 30km, thorax loses. Start somewhere in between, and skillpoints come more into effect and it's a pulse-pounding few seconds as you find out who's got what.
Sorja	Posted - 2005.09.06 05:04:00 - [1126] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Yep, correct. I could care less though, if someone could tell me 'train this and skill to x level and your Cerberus will be the killing machine it was advertised', heh... I wouldn't mind at all This of course, is totally irrelevant to the topic, I was surprized it was still alive after 20 pages and took the opportunity to wave hello at Electro Kill mails
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2005.09.06 05:04:00 - [1127] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Yep, correct. I could care less though, if someone could tell me 'train this and skill to x level and your Cerberus will be the killing machine it was advertised', heh... I wouldn't mind at all This of course, is totally irrelevant to the topic, I was surprized it was still alive after 20 pages and took the opportunity to wave hello at Electro ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2005.09.06 05:04:00 - [1128] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Yep, correct. I could care less though, if someone could tell me 'train this and skill to x level and your Cerberus will be the killing machine it was advertised', heh... I wouldn't mind at all This of course, is totally irrelevant to the topic, I was surprized it was still alive after 20 pages and took the opportunity to wave hello at Electro ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Azulya Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.30 23:53:00 - [1129] Originally by: Noriath The Thorax already got nerfed badly with the changes to MWD that make it completly suicidal to use one in combat. Now one of its bonuses is completly useless because you can't use an MWD in combat anyways. QFT
Azulya Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.30 23:53:00 - [1130] Originally by: Noriath The Thorax already got nerfed badly with the changes to MWD that make it completly suicidal to use one in combat. Now one of its bonuses is completly useless because you can't use an MWD in combat anyways. QFT
Shinca	Posted - 2006.12.30 23:59:00 - [1131] necromancy is bad, mkay... it also makes you look stupid, since it seems you needed a year and a half to figure it out clones are people two Slovenian EVE forum
Fodderrr	Posted - 2006.12.31 00:02:00 - [1132] Originally by: Azulya Originally by: Noriath The Thorax already got nerfed badly with the changes to MWD that make it completly suicidal to use one in combat. Now one of its bonuses is completly useless because you can't use an MWD in combat anyways. QFT Yes you can use mwd in combat, infact with the pg/cpu increase in some patch ages ago its been probably a better alternative.
Lady Kinla Dark Empire Fleet	Posted - 2006.12.31 00:16:00 - [1133] nuff said --------------------------- Aimez- "oh ****, this is empire......." Thanks for the loot, and next time you go out to pirate, carry more tech 2 plz =)
Reto The Last Resort	Posted - 2006.12.31 00:23:00 - [1134] Edited by: Reto on 31/12/2006 00:25:00 Edited by: Reto on 31/12/2006 00:23:50 [replying to a fake necroed thread] alright i just read w0lverines post and cba to read the rest. back to topic. cargobay size is imo fair. cap booster charges + intese ammo use for blasters make it clearly necessary in my eyes. imo all ammo using ships especially ac and blasters need a bay which can carry enuff for extended fights. especially since ccp decided to make combat last longer. and btw: caracal 450m¦ stabber 420m¦ zealot 450m¦ thorax 450m¦ all of those are ships which depend on intense use of ammo/missles or capbooster charges. i for my part think the rax is not overpowered here by any means. P.S. w0lverine u owe me 2 valuable minutes of my life replying to ur thread and explaining u the mysteries of logic... [/replying to a fake necroed thread] Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2006.12.31 00:28:00 - [1135] LOCK ALL TOPICS THAT HAVE BEEN INACTIVE FOR OVER 6 MONTHS
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.31 00:34:00 - [1136] Originally by: Azerrad InExile LOCK ALL TOPICS THAT HAVE BEEN INACTIVE FOR OVER 6 MONTHS now THAT deserves a QFT __________________________ Why babelfish is bad mmm k "which the night do not expect that it calls the primary education before becoming deformed inside"
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:28:00 - [1137] Edited by: Akita T on 31/12/2006 01:29:30 Thorax once had 200m dronebay ? And you could launch more than 5 drones ? And that was only 18 months ago ? Oh, the humanity ! Oh well, IBTL _ My skills \| Mod/Rig stacknerfing explained
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.31 01:46:00 - [1138] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 31/12/2006 01:29:30 Thorax once had 200m dronebay ? And you could launch more than 5 drones ? And that was only 18 months ago ? Oh, the humanity ! Oh well, IBTL I'm posting in a Necro Thread. It used to be 2,000m3 way back when Tanking Survivability Calculator

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